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I am 6'8" tall so none of the rear seats are for me but I do fit.

However, I have had no complaints from any rear seat passengers.

I have asked all of them if they were comfortable since my seat is always back ALL the way.

Also, I did notice that the headroom is a bit less, maybe 1.5" or so, with the sunroof option on the limited.

I noticed I had to recline the seat a bit to avoid my head hitting the roof.

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Great comparisons! I have been researching minivans for about 3 weeks now, drove them all twice. Pros and Cons all around.

In general the Pacifica is a better minivan, due to it's a "new" car, and not just a re-design year to year.

One question. more room. What do you think about the second row bench seat? did you compare that? I think the Odyssey with the seat that separate sideways might win here.

BUT I still like the Pacifica better.
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Since I am 6'8" tall ... a Tilt Wheel option is an absolute must in ANY vehicle I drive.

The cars I have owned that fit me best without modification are:

* Mercedes S Class

* Infiniti M45

* Nissan Vehicles in general fit me well but I do not care for them much.


The 2017 Chrysler Pacifica can be touch tight getting in and out but once I am in I am OK. The issue has to do with the angle I enter the vehicle. If I get t wrong I have to reset and retry entry.

I own Four Toyota Vehicles, Three (3) 80 Series Land Cruisers and One (1) Tp100 Pickup. Non of them fit me without modification of the seats. We do that modification here at our shop and it is actually stronger than the original factory seat mounting.

I basically evaluate ride, performance, technology and other aspects such as sound.

The Chrysler fails include a 3G System for WiFi and a poor quality sounds system unless you upgrade to the top of the line Harman Kardon which I did do. Even that is just acceptable and I would not qualify it as good However, I have a long history as a Recording Engineer and an Audiophile so am pickier that most when it comes to sound.

Reliability is a factor that I consider as well. My other vehicles are "keepers" and range in years from 1994 to 2008. They are all reliable, well made, well engineered vehicles.

Historically, the Chrysler does not score high in reliability but neither do most modern USA brands these days. I am only keeping this vehicle for 3 years since technology will be progressing rapidly in these vehicles over the next serval years. So reliability was not a huge factor or major consideration for me.


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Hi 4x4NA,

I am 5'10" and all cars seem to have good headroom for me.

What other things are special about how you evaluate cars?

For example; Does a tilt/telescoping wheel help with your seating, or is it ineffective?

Are there cars that have been great for you out of the gate or with little modification?

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Looks like Mr. 4x4NA grew an inch since last year!

Not unheard of. I think I'm up close to 1/2 an inch since curtailing my jogging (kids take up so much time!)

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Yes, the 2nd row seat is a minor negative for me for the following reasons:

* I am 6'7" tall and with the Tri-Panel Roof, which takes up headroom, I cannot sit in the 2nd row without hitting my head on the ceiling. However, I would assume that titling or reclining the 2nd row seat a bit would make it possible.

* Due to the Stow & Go Design there is a sacrifice when it comes to the 2nd row seating ergonomics and comfort.

I am extremely tall and I never sit in the back seat. My friend that sat in the vehicle who is normal human size did not appear to have the same issues.

However, I can tell by sitting in the 2nd row there is a sacrifice in comfort and ergonomics due to the Stow & Go Feature which is more important for us and our application.


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Great comparisons! I have been researching minivans for about 3 weeks now, drove them all twice. Pros and Cons all around.

In general the Pacifica is a better minivan, due to it's a "new" car, and not just a re-design year to year.

One question. more room. What do you think about the second row bench seat? did you compare that? I think the Odyssey with the seat that separate sideways might win here.

BUT I still like the Pacifica better.
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I am 6'8" tall so none of the rear seats are for me but I do fit.

However, I have had no complaints from any rear seat passengers.

I have asked all of them if they were comfortable since my seat is always back ALL the way.

Also, I did notice that the headroom is a bit less, maybe 1.5" or so, with the sunroof option on the limited.

I noticed I had to recline the seat a bit to avoid my head hitting the roof.

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Great comparisons! I have been researching minivans for about 3 weeks now, drove them all twice. Pros and Cons all around.

In general the Pacifica is a better minivan, due to it's a "new" car, and not just a re-design year to year.

One question. more room. What do you think about the second row bench seat? did you compare that? I think the Odyssey with the seat that separate sideways might win here.

BUT I still like the Pacifica better.
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UPDATE: The Forward Collision Warning system does work, it has engaged rapidly and in many different conditions with incredible speed! I wish the system would provide just a tad more advanced warning, but otherwise it does work. I am not sure if the software has been updated or if the variables / parameters for FCW engagement are just razor thin to avoid false alarms. No matter what the case, the system works. I will never own another car without this system. It's a must have feature! I am still wishing for more notice, but I will accept what I have as am overall solid safety system.
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[...] FCW engagement are just razor thin to avoid false alarms [...]
False alarms could be very dangerous. You don't want to get rear-ended because the FCW had a false alarm.
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One day while passing a Volvo dealer I stopped in to check out the Volvo XC90. Unfortunately, just like Toyota, the Volvo is not available with a diesel in the US. Both companies would sell more cars if they were. In addition, as nice as the Volvo was, I honestly did not think the was worth the asking price of 86K to 90K loaded.


Chrysler Pacifica
Clearly the winner and the ONLY vehicle that excited me enough to pull out my wallet. No AWD but since I already have Land Cruisers for Winter Driving in the North East this was not crucial to me. Fantastic ride quality leaps and bounds above the rest. Had the most room by far and even with my 6'8" frame and wide shoulders I was extremely comfortable. Nicest interior quality, fit and finish. Technology comparable to the 86K to 90K Volvo XC90 that I drove. Very good implementation of technology and great features. In addition, Stow & Go was a deal closer.
I could go on but the bottom line is that it the 2017 Chrysler Pacifica stands head and shoulders above the rest. Bottom line -- I purchased one.

XC90 is an excellent SUV. It's so truly luxurious inside. Definitely the interior is more upscale than any of it's competition from Mercede to BMW to Audi etc. Seats are ultra comfortable, and the $3200 sound system is almost perfect. No Diesel in US but you can consider the inscription T8. It's Plug-in Hybrid and it goes up to 400hp with the twin engines. Pacifica is great but no comparison to the Volvo XC90 for it's front seat and driving experience.

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