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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 12-17-2018, 08:15 PM Thread Starter
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I was going to take my old Ford pickup to my other house and haul the washer and dryer down this way. Got in and fired it up and no brakes. Bummer! Since that made a mess out of the day I went in the house and looked up used pickup trucks. My old one is hardly worth fixing. WOW! Do they charge an arm and a leg plus part of the other arm for used pick ups. But, I guess, when you look at what a new one costs today, maybe the current prices are reasonable. I just remember my loaded pickup I bought new a long time ago only cost $5,200.00!

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I guess I must be un-American. I never got the point of a pickup truck. Yes, I know they are the biggest selling vehicles.
I could never think of what I would want to put in the bed that I wouldn't care if it blew away, got rained on or could get stolen. Even if I was hauling dirt, I wouldn't want it to get rained on. I have hauled dirt in a mini-van - filled plastic garbage cans with dirt and hauled it that way. I know, they sell caps for pickup trucks, but why not just get a mini-van? I am astounded by how huge pickups have become - they have their own gravitational fields...
I don't know why pickups have directional signals - they never get used.
Don't mind me - I don't get Ass-u-Vs, either - they are larger on the outside but smaller on the inside than my Pacifica, and I don't need a ladder to climb into my Pacifica. The only time I see Ass-u-Vs off-road is in snowstorms, where they learn the laws of physics DO apply to 4-wheel drive vehicles, and 4-wheel drive doesn't help you stop and doesn't prevent skids.
BTW - I have driven well over a million miles in many cars - have never owned a V-8 or a 4WD vehicle, and have passed many an Ass-u-V that was stuck in a snowbank.
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I guess I must be un-American. I never got the point of a pickup truck. Yes, I know they are the biggest selling vehicles . . .
I think maybe the problem is you don't need to prove that your whatchamacallits are bigger that the other guys whatchamacallits.
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I will agree with you they don't stop any better than a car or van, but I can show you some snow that will stop your van and mine where that 4WD PU will rip right through it. Many times while out West with a rental car I was in areas where a 4WD PU would have been great for the trails out there. Last year I would have never placed all that roofing and other junk from the roof of my breeze way and garage that I just replaced in my van. It took two loads in my old PU truck.
I have already used my van to haul plywood from the lumber company on a rainy day and that was great. I did not have to hold up my project. But there is a limit to how much crap I will haul in the Pacifica. That crap goes in the PU.
Yes, some of the trucks do look like monsters. But when some idiot crosses the center line and hits me, I would be very happy I was not in a small car.
Enjoy your van, I sure do mine.

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I thought one purpose of pick up trucks was to carry stuff which you wouldnít want inside the passenger compartment, such as dirt, fodder, or any kind of smelly junk. In a pick up that is nicely separated from the passenger compartment, if you do that in a minivan every day for a month, your car will probably smell like the same too.
Also the heavy equipment such as metal, lumber, furniture, lawn mowers, and stuff could easily scratch and damage the inside of a passenger car / minivan, but in a truck you couldnít care less.
And BTW, pick up trucks are one of the most comfortable mass market vehicles on the planet (along with SUVs too).
Now I havenít owned one yet since I donít do any of the stuff I mentioned , but can easily see the appeal. The only time I have ever driven a pick up truck is when a friend let me drive his manual shift Tacoma.


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I bought a nicely equipped '73 Dodge D100 for $4300 in May of '73. It towed a camp trailer for a few years and hauled a lot of lumber, firewood and junk. I liked it so much I kept it and have restored it twice. When I bought my first Dodge GC in 2004, the truck sort of retired. The van became my hauler for lumber and clean bulky things, but the truck is relegated to carrying the really dirty stuff.

The truck easily beats the van for towing. I used my 2014 T&C recently to pull a U-Haul for a couple hundred miles, but the suspension is too soft for my taste, so the next time I'll use my ancient truck. The van is great for carrying heavy loads, but even with the towing package, the ride is "jittery" when towing.

New trucks are way too big and expensive for me to even consider buying one for no more use than it would get. A Pacifica...with towing package...is my next purchase, but the old Dodge Adventurer Sport will still be in my garage for serious hauling and towing.
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I think maybe the problem is you don't need to prove that your whatchamacallits are bigger that the other guys whatchamacallits.
I think you hit the nail on the head. The desire for bigger, faster, more powerful cars is deeply embedded in American's DNA. The steep rise in gas prices since the 1960's has forced us to think differently but the DNA has not changed. Given the gas mileage standards that have been put in place, the only big and powerful vehicles are PU trucks and medium to large SUVs. Another bit of DNA drives us American's to want the ability to go anywhere and everywhere so high ground clearance and 4WD or AWD is a must even though we likely will never get off hard pavement. The auto manufacturers have accommodated us by designing PU trucks with all the comfort and convenience features of luxury cars. Of course this all comes at a premium price.

My recommendation to the OP is to wait, if they can, for gas prices to go up. The price of PU trucks will come down.


BTW, my wife drives a 2009 F250, 4WD and has driven a PU exclusively since around 1990. But we "need" a PU to haul heavy and or bulky stuff to support our horses and maintain the property.

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I think you hit the nail on the head. The desire for bigger, faster, more powerful cars is deeply embedded in American's DNA. The steep rise in gas prices since the 1960's has forced us to think differently but the DNA has not changed. Given the gas mileage standards that have been put in place, the only big and powerful vehicles are PU trucks and medium to large SUVs. Another bit of DNA drives us American's to want the ability to go anywhere and everywhere so high ground clearance and 4WD or AWD is a must even though we likely will never get off hard pavement. The auto manufacturers have accommodated us by designing PU trucks with all the comfort and convenience features of luxury cars. Of course this all comes at a premium price.

My recommendation to the OP is to wait, if they can, for gas prices to go up. The price of PU trucks will come down.


BTW, my wife drives a 2009 F250, 4WD and has driven a PU exclusively since around 1990. But we "need" a PU to haul heavy and or bulky stuff to support our horses and maintain the property.
My observation (and it's only that) has been that most PU trucks are driven by guys who have scant need for one. They are clean and show no signs of use as a work vehicle. Of course trades people, and in your case, rural farmers, absolutely have use for a truck.

Truck sales do fluctuate a little with gas prices, but not much. The real world gas prices adjusted for inflation have remained pretty steady over the last 100 years. This interesting web page covers the details thoroughly.
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I bought a nicely equipped '73 Dodge D100 for $4300 in May of '73. It towed a camp trailer for a few years and hauled a lot of lumber, firewood and junk. I liked it so much I kept it and have restored it twice.
Wow! Looks very good for a '73. My '73 that I ordered could be part of a park bench today. Or the plastic parts taking the 1000 years for it to decay in a landfill somewhere.

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