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2019 Hybrid Limited features ( or lack of them )

any summary for how 2019 PacHy limited compares to the gas model as well as to Odyssey Elite ?

I can understand missing 8th seat ( must save weight ) or the missing vacuum and spare tire ( 12V has to go somewhere, although ... how does it displace BOTH vac and spare tire ? )

but some other omissions are more perplexing ... like Halogen headlights ... really silly on a $50,000 car.

also if i understand correctly no power folding 3rd row seats ? my mother was really impressed by that feature when we tried it at the dealership - obviously i assumed it was the same on Hybrid.

any other missing features on the 2019 PacHy Limited ? i am hearing the 2019 is not as bad as 2018 as far as missing features go - is that true ?

i also think even the Hybrid version although having less features than Gasser still has more features than Odyssey Elite ... which doesn't have 360 degree camera or tri-pane panoramic roof which are two features that i think really add value ... anything else the Odyssey is missing ?

i'm frankly not very keen on the 9 speed automatic in either Pacifica or Odyssey ... but the Hybrid is really good and so is the 10 speed in the Odyssey ( although i only test drove the 9 speed odyssey and the shifts felt like some kind of rental home depot van which is a shame because handling was excellent ).

i really want a minivan and i ruled out the Sienna already because it's just way too dated inside but Pacifica and Odyssey seem to run neck in neck mainly because they are keeping an eye on each other and adjust pricing and features accordingly ...

as i said i see the Hybrid Pacifica as competition to 10 speed Odyssey whereas the Gas Pacifica as competition to 9 speed Odyssey.

the resale value will be higher on Odyssey but Pacifica has bigger discounts. it all seems to balance out - very hard to decide.

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Odyssey in any trim level does not have a rear evaporator and tries to cool the entire van with just the front evaporator. Many complaints on the Odyssey forum I watch.

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Youíll find a lot of threads about the differences if you search. The big difference is lack of StowíníGo. For me, SnG was the feature that pushed me to Chrysler when I bought my old van in 2009. I used it quite a bit over the years. Iím going to miss it with my new Hybrid.

The inability to tow on the Hybrid may or may not matter to you.

The 2018s didnít have memory seats, which pushed me towards the 19. I was also concerned about how long the 18s have been sitting on the lot. In my experience, batteries that arenít properly maintained develop issues at a much higher rate than those which are regulaly used.

Lack of power fold rear seats is an advantage, to me. Itís pulling two cords per seat, and the process happens faster manually than powered. I can get impatient. The power sliding doors donít close as quickly as my old manual sliders, which I find somewhat irritating. One less thing to go wrong, too.

You should go drive a PacHy. It drives very differently than a conventional transmission. Pretty good handling for a van, too.

For me, the economics of the PacHy won out over the features of the gas version. Weíll see how that plays out in practice. Yesterday I drove to work and back without using any gas, which was both expected and trippy. Iím amazed that a 5,000lbs vehicle can do that.
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any summary for how 2019 PacHy limited compares to the gas model as well as to Odyssey Elite ?

I can understand missing 8th seat ( must save weight ) or the missing vacuum and spare tire ( 12V has to go somewhere, although ... how does it displace BOTH vac and spare tire ? )


also if i understand correctly no power folding 3rd row seats ? my mother was really impressed by that feature when we tried it at the dealership - obviously i assumed it was the same on Hybrid.
The vac and spare tire occupy the same space. You can't have both so the hybrid 12v battery takes the place of the vac OR spare tire.

I have the gas limited with the power folding 3rd row and would prefer the manual folding seats. The power folding seats are much slower to stow or unstow and some owners have been stuck with the seats in a partial position due to a failure of the power folding mechanism. The manual folding seats are easy to operate, taking little effort.

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I have a table comparing the 2018 models. 2019 PacHy added power folding mirrors, seat memory and maybe something else I don't know about
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xemx3nepcu...ghted.pdf?dl=0
Just noticed one error in the list- it doesn't state that the 20 speaker system with Theater is standard on PacHy and optional on gas.

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The Honda has 2nd row seating that slides fore-aft and side-to-side. The PacHy has a bit of fore-aft adjustment only. In both cases the 2nd row seats are big and heavy, about 70 pounds each, and awkward to remove. The Hondaís floor is not very flat with the seats removed, the PacHy should be better. The petrol powered Pacifica has 2nd row seats that fold into the floor. Itís a clear winner if you switch between people and cargo on a regular basis. Folks with child seats seem to like the Honda setup.

The 9 speed transmission in the Honda and Pacifica is basically the same - they both purchase it from the German supplier ZF. Pick yer poison...

The manual folding third row in the Pacifica is so quick and easy to put up and down that the power option seems silly and pointless in comparison. Itís one more thing to break, and it doesnít really add any value, so...
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If a hybrid powertrain matters at all to you, the Pachy is the only game in town. I didn't even consider any competitors. We've never used Stow n Go, and kids' car seats take up the middle row so we don't miss that. Like others said, and it makes sense, the Hybrid is built up from the base gas Pacifica, so components are added over time. Agree that HID should be included on a Limited trim, but it's more of a nice to have.

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The 9 speed transmission in the Honda and Pacifica is basically the same - they both purchase it from the German supplier ZF. Pick yer poison...
Do OEMs purchase the transmissions or license the design and build them in house?

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Do OEMs purchase the transmissions or license the design and build them in house?
On the Odyssey, the lower trim levels get the 9 speed which gets a big thumbs down from a lot of people.

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A lot of things are subcontracted in the Automotive

World transmissions are one on them.

bmw used a GM transmission for a long time.
The current auto that is in BMW's is also used
in a few other brands.

I don't think the transmission the Pachy is subbed
though that is a one of kind design though based
on other hybrids.
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