Hi, I have the 2018 pachy Ltd bought in Nov 2018. I am just a layman who.paid almost 50k for this van and all these posts about the fire accident scares the **** out of me to drive and take my family out. I have couple of questions and request all to help.
1) How can I ensure that my car will not get into a fire accident? Any standard recalls that needs to be done. I noticed something about u73 and u94 I guess. What should I ask the dealer to check so that I will have peace of mind. A step by step instruction will help people like me who dont have much automotive knowledge.
2) I will be out of country for a month. What preventive measures can i take to ensure there will be no fire accident. Should I even park in my garage or park it outside? Also what should I do so that I can come back and start the car without any issues, like unplugging batteries etc.
Please do not fear new technology. Just have a healthy respect for it. If anything, fear stupid humans that misuse it.
Statistics are often misleading. So are news worthy (sensational impact) statements and images. It is not just how often something goes wrong that is important, it is also how bad it goes wrong when it does. And as has been pointed out, you get a biased view of reality in any forum where confusion and dissatisfaction are more often reported than happy campers.
Flying safety statistics vs. plane crash reports and images.
Arificial Intelligence (AI) statistical reliability vs. stupid, racist, sexist, bigoted internet AI bots and AI programs that are already in use (or should I say misuse) today by our justice and medical establishments.
The fact is that your safety is mostly in your hands. As others have said, you will never be “SAFE”. But you can be “SAFER” by the actions and decisions you make, greatly influencing your chances of living a full and satisfying life. Your asking those questions is the right step.
My 2 cents:
I have owned my Pachy for 8 months and 10k miles and love it. It has not been without problems, but it has had no major issues. It has had fewer and less severe problems than my two new Hondas (Civic and Fit models), but it has not been as problem free as my Toyota Previas.
1 gallon of gasoline has roughly twice the stored energy of a fully charged Pachy motive battery module. However, a Lithium battery fire is different. Either can be explosive or lethal. I will not say more or less dangerous in either case. All car fires are potential killers. If there is smoke or indications of a fire, get out and get away. FYI, a typical 12V car battery has about 1/16th the stored energy of the Pachy motive battery.
Read your owner’s manual, especially the parts about how to charge, what to do and what not to do. For examples, no extension cords, and use a dedicated circuit to plug into. This means there is only one outlet or one hardwired charger on that circuit breaker. If you are wondering why, just plug your EVSE charger that came with the vehicle in and charge the vehicle. After about 10 minutes of charging, feel the charge cable anywhere along its length. It will be warm. Now imagine how hot a poor connection in one of the daisy chained outlets in your house will get. Each outlet along the chain has at least 4 connections. Charging is not like plugging in a hair dryer. The current is higher and is continuous for 10 – 12 hrs on the class 1 charger that comes with the car.
Use a class 2 charger at 12A. This is a great compromise between the charge time and connector/wiring stress. It is equal to or has less stress on the connections and wiring than the class 1 charger because it results in the same current level (heating) in the wires and connections, but charges for less than half the time. The high current class 2 charger (requiring a 30A circuit) has much higher connector and wiring current (heating), but has a 2 to 3 hour charge time. I don’t need that super quick charge time. If it was an EV with 5 to 10 times the battery capacity, I might need it to be able to charge in one night, but not with my Pachy. 5 hours is plenty fast.
Don’t use public chargers. It’s like using a community tooth brush. The wear on the contacts is much higher and they are not cared for like your own charger. Besides, it’s usually cheaper to use gas than pay for the high electricity costs they charge. There have been cases where the public charger contacts overheated from lack of proper maintenance, welding the plastic housing of the charge wand to the car receptacle.
Keep your charge port and connector wand clean and free of water and dirt. It is a good practice to look into the wand and vehicle port connectors prior to each hook up. You wouldn't allow dirt and water into your gas tank, so don't allow crud into your charge circuit.
If you are seeing the “service charging system” message on occasion, or if your 12V battery is the original battery that came in the vehicle and the vehicle sat on the lot for more than 4 months, or even if you are just seeing battery voltages on the dash info display routinely at or above 14.6V, replace it with a new 12V battery. Use only the AGM type H6 and connect up the battery vent just like the original 12V battery was hooked up. Most auto parts stores and Walmart stock this battery.
Don’t run heavy load accessories in the car for long periods without the car ON. This can drain the 12V battery. And dead or dying 12V batteries may be linked to “scrambled brains” in your Pachy that result in weird behavior and perhaps propagated failures that are otherwise inexplicable.
I park my car outside, but I live in south Texas. So consider that the Pachy may be a magnet to small nest-building animals especially in cold climates due to the heating systems that may come on to keep the motive battery from getting too cold. Any car is a magnet but the Pachy may be more so. So perhaps a detached garage that has rodent poison/deterent in it would be best to limit the likelihood that a rodent will build a tinder box into your Pachy, and may limit the damage if a fire does occur.
For storage that lasts weeks, I would follow
’s advice and leave a decent charge on the motive battery so that it may periodically charge the 12v battery. FYI, the 12V battery is the vehicles main electronics “startup” battery. If it dies, the car is dead and cannot start up.
For very long term storage (months, for any type of car with a low voltage startup battery), I have hooked up a 12V float charger plugged into a standard household light timer that is plugged into std AC. Setting the timer to 1 to 2 hrs per day is sufficient to keep the battery charged and healthy almost indefinitely. The float charger (13.5 to 13.8V regulated) can be hooked up to the 12V post under the hood and any convenient vehicle ground metal. Make sure the hood is closed without pinching the wires.
Again, this is not advice that will keep you “SAFE”. It is advice that experience says may keep you “Safer”