Its good to see people like Norbert, who has owned his fair share of Odysseys in the past, but was willing to appreciate what the Pacifica has to offer. Over on the Ody forum, plenty of complaints about quality, features not working, features missing, etc. Yet posts always end with their love for it. I'm not saying you can't love your vehicle, but at some point, you have to take off the Honda fanboy glasses, and realize Honda isn't what it used to be. There was a post awhile back in Jan, with links to two videos showing the production lines for the Pacifica and a Honda line. It mentioned "dangerous" and "flammable loose shirts" and "absent minded faces" on the Pacifica video. Seems to me the Alabama plant is guilty of plenty of quality issues on the '18 Ody. I know the Pacifica, for some people, has been a nightmare, and it can happen to anyone, with any vehicle. But I haven't seen as many quality control related posts on here. Nothing about misaligned bumpers, doors, etc.