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post #11 of 24 (permalink) Old 09-12-2018, 04:56 PM Thread Starter
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Oh, please. I'll post another pic with the van in the foreground. Perspective is everything. Silly post, friend.

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Maybe I can cancel the lawyer now. It's not like I dragged a barge off the Mississippi after all.
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It always amaze me how much the Towing Police patrol these waters. I suspect most of them don't have much experience with a trailer.

Some seem to think you need a Freightliner to pull a wheelbarrow...I've never understood it.
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Please tell me how to get the Attached thumbnail to show the image. iPad mini. Can see the Pacifica/boat pic but not the Pacifica/pontoon pics.
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Sounds like the Pacifica performed as designed. The Pontoon boat in the pictures creates a lot of air drag.The 3.6 Pentatstar does not start making good power and torque till around 3000 rpm. Torque peak is around 4200 Rpm. When I tow a 6x12 enclosed utility trailer, with my 2015 Caravan, I can hold 5th (2500-2600 rpms) on the straight and level, but hilly country requires running in fourth (3100- 3500 rpms). I tow 3000 lbs all day long at 3100 - 3500 rpms.

Foot Note: I towed a 6000# 7x14 Haulmark enclosed trailer with 2012 Dodge Durango with 3.6 pentastar and Mercedes 5 speed trans. Same story as our vans, needed to run around 3000-3500 rpms. I towed mostly in 3rd gear. 4th would pull engine rpms down to 2500 rpm and any kind of hill, or wind, would force a downshift. I stayed in 3rd all the time, to prevent constant shifting. I towed that combo for two years, and many thousands of miles. Nothing every got too hot, and we averaged 9 mpg.
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Thanks for the reply. It just seems wrong somehow (not a design flaw, just odd to me) to see the engine running at those RPM's, and without the extra weight of all the passengers and gear that will actually be along for these trips normally. Just hard for me to fathom that it will handle the full load without expiring. I'm just used to chunky V8's in big beasts that really have no problem towing at all.

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Thanks for the reply. It just seems wrong somehow (not a design flaw, just odd to me) to see the engine running at those RPM's, and without the extra weight of all the passengers and gear that will actually be along for these trips normally. Just hard for me to fathom that it will handle the full load without expiring. I'm just used to chunky V8's in big beasts that really have no problem towing at all.
Remember that adding weight to the van is going to mean very little to your engine on the highway. The overwhelming majority of power used to go down the road is used to push the van and trailer through the air. Some extra frictional losses due to the added weight will be tiny in comparison.

Remember that these engines are rated for as much as 6,200 lbs towing capacity in the heavier Durango. As long as your engine and transmission temps stay in range, you won't hurt it.
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So you don't think I'm committing a felony towing with it? OK, I'll let the RPM's do what they please then. Either that or the old-school 11,000lb rated Econoline I guess. (Gross Combined Wt Rating (lbs):22,000)

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So you don't think I'm committing a felony towing with it? OK, I'll let the RPM's do what they please then. Either that or the old-school 11,000lb rated Econoline I guess. (Gross Combined Wt Rating (lbs):22,000)
No felony as long as you use those mirror extenders Just monitor you oil, coolant and transmission temps. Fortunately the Pacifica makes all these readily available. I think the transmission will probably be the weak link relative to towing. Keep it in the right temperature range.
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No felony as long as you use those mirror extenders Just monitor you oil, coolant and transmission temps. Fortunately the Pacifica makes all these readily available. I think the transmission will probably be the weak link relative to towing. Keep it in the right temperature range.
No doubt it won't roll again without them.

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