The linked article above about the Atlas basically proved the point of our conundrum. We think mini vans are the obvious choice for big families but the more we map out logistics the more complex the Pacifica gets for us. We currently drive an Explorer and the only real issue is third row access. Sliding doors and more cargo capacity is definitely on our pro list for the Pacifica, and we'd welcome an aisle if the third row truly saw three across, but the loss of AWD and the car seat conundrum is a major issue. We don't need an 8 passenger car with 2 barely usable seats, we need a 7 passenger car with 7 usable seats. SO...if you know of specific configurations of three across in the 3rd row I'd love to hear them.