power requirements for charging PHEV - 2017+ Chrysler Pacifica Minivan Forums
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-14-2019, 06:29 AM Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 3
power requirements for charging PHEV

I am considering purchasing a 2019 PACHY and if so, I will want to install a solar system to charge it. Can anyone tell me how many amps or watts are used when charging with level 1 (120 V)?
star10 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-14-2019, 08:05 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Northern Minnesota
Posts: 624
You will need about 11 amps, 120 volts, or about 1300-1400 watts.

2018 Limited Gas
Lipster is online now  
post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-14-2019, 08:13 AM Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 3
Thank you very much!
star10 is offline  
 
post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-15-2019, 11:42 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: IL
Posts: 349
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lipster View Post
You will need about 11 amps, 120 volts, or about 1300-1400 watts.
Another thing to think about is the amount of time it takes to charge with a level 1 charger. It will take around 9-10 hours and in most places, even during summer, you probably wonít have peak sunlight for that amount of time. So my guess is that your solar charger will have to be rated at higher than 1300-1400 watts.

2018 Pacifica Hybrid Limited
PacDave is offline  
post #5 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-16-2019, 02:40 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 1
If possible, strongly consider upgrading your solar system to 250 Volts @ 20-30 AMP service (like a small generator).

If you were able to do this you would be able to charge your PACHY in just about 2 hours from 0%.

110 V @ 10-12 AMPs would take 9+ hours to charge from 0%. (longer than most regional SUN times.

I use a Duosida level 2 charger 250 Volt @ 20 AMP and it charges my PACHY 17 in 2 hours 20 minutes from 0% charge.
bigdt93 is offline  
post #6 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-18-2019, 03:14 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Central FL
Posts: 170
Length of Time for Level 1 Charge

Quote:
Originally Posted by PacDave View Post
Another thing to think about is the amount of time it takes to charge with a level 1 charger. It will take around 9-10 hours and in most places, even during summer, you probably wonít have peak sunlight for that amount of time. So my guess is that your solar charger will have to be rated at higher than 1300-1400 watts.
Is 9-10 hours a real world time on a depleted, 0% battery? I thought it was something more like 12-14 hours, which would definitely put a crimp on solar charging on all but the most sunny of the longest summer days.

'18 PacHy Ltd, red/alloy, 18" whls, roof, AST
rudiger is offline  
post #7 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-19-2019, 12:11 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: IL
Posts: 349
Quote:
Originally Posted by rudiger View Post
Is 9-10 hours a real world time on a depleted, 0% battery? I thought it was something more like 12-14 hours, which would definitely put a crimp on solar charging on all but the most sunny of the longest summer days.
Well, to be honest, I have only used a level 1 charger a few times. We bought a level 2 charger almost immediately after purchasing the PacHy. So I didnít really time it to find out exactly how long it took to get from 0 to 100% but Iím sure 9-10 hours is a conservative estimate.

2018 Pacifica Hybrid Limited
PacDave is offline  
post #8 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-19-2019, 12:25 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Central FL
Posts: 170
Quote:
Originally Posted by PacDave View Post
Well, to be honest, I have only used a level 1 charger a few times. We bought a level 2 charger almost immediately after purchasing the PacHy. So I didn’t really time it to find out exactly how long it took to get from 0 to 100% but I’m sure 9-10 hours is a conservative estimate.
I was just curious. I know the PacHy has a large battery, as well as a 6.6kWh charger, and figured that explained why a level 2 charger can get a complete charge in a relatively quick, slightly more than two hours, while a level 1 charger takes considerably longer.

I mean, the 12-14 hour level 1 estimate, if accurate, rivals one of the earliest (and slowest) modern BEV charging times, that being the Mitsubith i-MiEV. On top of having the slowest charge time, it also had one of the shortest EV ranges (60 miles). Imagine living with the range anxiety, coupled with the long level 1 charge time. They were the cheapest BEV but still sold poorly. If you could live with the charge time and low range, they were quite a bargain at the end of production.

'18 PacHy Ltd, red/alloy, 18" whls, roof, AST

Last edited by rudiger; 02-19-2019 at 01:02 AM.
rudiger is offline  
post #9 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-24-2019, 10:41 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 12
I posted this question in another thread but niw re-reading, this one is more appropriate (I think)


Background : I own a 2018 PacHy and a 2016 Kia Soul EV (100% electric with 93-106 mile range)

For the past year and half, I have been charging using the stock charger provided by the Soul EV. It takes between 6-8 hours for the PacHy and 14-16 hours for the Soul EV.
Now I have finalized an installer for solar and spoken to him about getting everything ready in my garage and circuit to charge both cars. He said he will install the necessary port in the garage. I am a bit clueless on what I need to get done.

What do you recommend I get done ? I have a 100A circuit coming into my house. Should I get my provider (PSEG) to spec out a 200A circuit ?

P.S -On a side note, I do frequently get GFCI reset (not sure if it has anything to do with using an extension cord for connecting the charger (the extension cord is outdoor-rated but very old pre-2005).
Goon is offline  
post #10 of 10 (permalink) Old 02-26-2019, 12:56 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Central FL
Posts: 170
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goon View Post
Background : I own a 2018 PacHy and a 2016 Kia Soul EV (100% electric with 93-106 mile range)

For the past year and half, I have been charging using the stock charger provided by the Soul EV. It takes between 6-8 hours for the PacHy and 14-16 hours for the Soul EV.
You're using the Soul EVSE for both the PacHy and Soul? I guess this makes some sense since it's a whole lot more convenient to just have one charger out and ready in the garage while you can keep the PacHy EVSE tucked away with the vehicle.

Still, if this is the case, I would think that using the PacHy as the garage charger, and keeping the Soul EVSE with that car might be more pragmatic, considering that the PacHy is a PHEV and is unlikely to leave you stranded. The Soul EV, being a BEV, could be in a situation where keeping that vehicle's EVSE with it at all times might be the difference between (eventually) getting home without a tow or Lyft.

OTOH, if the 6-8 hours is for a 0%, completely depleted battery, that's quite a bit shorter (nearly half) than the 12-14 hours with the stock PacHy EVSE.

'18 PacHy Ltd, red/alloy, 18" whls, roof, AST
rudiger is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the 2017+ Chrysler Pacifica Minivan Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Extended Warranty Worth It? Neogeo Chrysler Pacifica Minivan Warranty 219 04-08-2019 08:19 PM
Power Sliding Door Stops Working Temporarily (W DMR89 Chrysler Pacifica Minivan Issues And Problems 9 01-19-2019 09:44 AM
Power Lift Gate Module improvement available m0ebius604 Chrysler Pacifica Minivan Recalls 13 10-17-2018 04:38 PM
2017 Pacifica Hybrid (PHEV) Recall: Power Inverter Module Failure Due to Overvoltage Chrysler Pacifica News Chrysler Pacifica Minivan Recalls 1 07-25-2017 02:15 PM
Seriously Thinking about cancelling my PHEV order cerrmj 2017+ Chrysler Pacifica PHEV Hybrid General Discussion 36 03-29-2017 03:17 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome