My guess is if they ramp up production of 2018's PacHy's, they'll start offering some incentives, especially if the fed gov't decides to reduce/eliminate tax credits.
Another thing I keep in mind when dealing is I want the dealer to make a profit. I can't stand to see posts where someone refers to dealers as 'stealerships'. Most times it's not the dealer, but buyers being their own worst enemy. How would that buyer like if their boss came up to them and said "I'm paying you too much, so only min wage for you today, and by the way, let me take up all your time arguing over your merits, but you still have to get all your work done today"? I never look to 'steal' or force a dealer into selling below their final cost (unless they hand it to me) because their in business to make money. Plus the sales staff need to make a commission - which they wholeheartedly deserve! Granted, dealer and sales staff don't make much on new vehicle sales. Dealers make more off used car sales and their service dept's, and sales staff typically earn a lot more commission selling used cars. Given that, I try to be respectful of their time and not hold up my sales person from having the time to make another sale. In fact once the price is agreed to, I encourage them to go out there and get another deal in process. Except for handling final details like getting the vehicle prepped for delivery, and handing me the keys at the end, etc, there's a lot of time they don't need to hang around doing nothing until I leave.