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post #21 of 44 (permalink) Old 03-22-2019, 01:17 PM
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I wonder why they continue to piece-meal options to the Hybrid. My work fleet got a '17 Hybrid when they came out, fully optioned and I was shocked that there was no memory seats and Homelink. It took two model years for both of those to appear. Still no HIDs.
I would guess this is a by-product of the PacHy using the strippo Pacifica 'L' as its basis (as was stated by the PacHy chief engineer in a podcast video). It would go a long way to understanding the inexplicable absence of things that are standard on the gas models (particularly the Limited).

Unfortunately, the engineer did not state the 'reason' the PacHy is based off the Pacifica 'L'. I'm going to guess it's due to the basic architecture of the 'L', i.e., the absence of Stow n'Go seating on that model (the 'L' has a bench middle seat). It's just simply much easier to convert a non-Stow n'Go Pacifica to a PHEV than one of the higher-trim models. But the trade-off is some of the included features of the upper-trim models end up going missing, too.
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I would guess this is a by-product of the PacHy using the strippo Pacifica 'L' as its basis (as was stated by the PacHy chief engineer in a podcast video). It would go a long way to understanding the inexplicable absence of things that are standard on the gas models (particularly the Limited).



Unfortunately, the engineer did not state the 'reason' the PacHy is based off the Pacifica 'L'. I'm going to guess it's due to the basic architecture of the 'L', i.e., the absence of Stow n'Go seating on that model (the 'L' has a bench middle seat). It's just simply much easier to convert a non-Stow n'Go Pacifica to a PHEV than one of the higher-trim models. But the trade-off is some of the included features of the upper-trim models end up going missing, too.


Of course someone has to pay for the price of the battery isnít it. The only other thing different from the gas version is the transmission. With engine being the same, itís going to be very difficult for them to price both models the same.


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Or just wait 10 years from now and you will be able to buy a used one for $1,000.

I will not dispute this statement since the battery tech is evolving rapidly and who knows in 10 years the ďnormal ď range for an EV may be well over 1000 miles. (Okay just hoping..... ). Of course all of our current cars (hybrids or gassers) can be had for $1000 then. .


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I would guess this is a by-product of the PacHy using the strippo Pacifica 'L' as its basis (as was stated by the PacHy chief engineer in a podcast video). It would go a long way to understanding the inexplicable absence of things that are standard on the gas models (particularly the Limited).

Unfortunately, the engineer did not state the 'reason' the PacHy is based off the Pacifica 'L'. I'm going to guess it's due to the basic architecture of the 'L', i.e., the absence of Stow n'Go seating on that model (the 'L' has a bench middle seat). It's just simply much easier to convert a non-Stow n'Go Pacifica to a PHEV than one of the higher-trim models. But the trade-off is some of the included features of the upper-trim models end up going missing, too.
This makes a lot of sense. Watch, next MY the Xenons will be available. Year after that, probably 20in wheels or the vacuum.

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The 12v battery takes place of the vacuum, no way they can get it in. HIDs is another story, they might finally include them. I also wish they would add all internal lights from the gas Limited. I thought about retrofitting them and check the harnesses. They had no wires or connectors for the absent lamps.

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I've noticed that Illinois Chrysler dealers really don't have many PacHy's in stock. They have a full rainbow assortment of gas powered Pacifica's but not many Hybrids.
It's not as though they are pre-selling them and just delivering them when they arrive. Is it a lack of profitability? Are they difficult to maintain in inventory? Is there a lack of interest by vehicle shoppers?
I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. I just checked the inventory on my dealership's website. 22 ICE Pacificas. 24 Pacifica Hybrids. Regarding Pacificas in the wild, I see more Hybrids than ICE's.

Can't think of any place in the U.S. where these observations would be more likely. Pretty sure you'll also see more Teslas here than anywhere else in the world.

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I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. I just checked the inventory on my dealership's website. 22 ICE Pacificas. 24 Pacifica Hybrids. Regarding Pacificas in the wild, I see more Hybrids than ICE's.

Can't think of any place in the U.S. where these observations would be more likely. Pretty sure you'll also see more Teslas here than anywhere else in the world.
Seems like I once read that the Prius was the number one selling Toyota in California, as well. None of this should come as a surprise in the state with the most stringent emission standards, as well as the highest fuel prices.

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This makes a lot of sense. Watch, next MY the Xenons will be available. Year after that, probably 20in wheels or the vacuum.
That's where I'd put my money.

But, like stop-eject said, the vacuum is a no-go for any year. To do that, they'd have to find another place for the 12v battery and I'm just not feeling that ever happening.

I mean, if they could have figured out someplace else to put the 12v, wouldn't they have done it in the first place? Running the wiring all the way back to the rear of the vehicle sounds like something they wouldn't have done unless there was absolutely no other place to put it.
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The 12v battery takes place of the vacuum, no way they can get it in. HIDs is another story, they might finally include them. I also wish they would add all internal lights from the gas Limited. I thought about retrofitting them and check the harnesses. They had no wires or connectors for the absent lamps.
what are these internal lights are you referring to? Thanks
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what are these internal lights are you referring to? Thanks
In the first row doors, glove box, liftback. I don't remember all of them...

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