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I'm giving it serious consideration to pass my 2017 Limited gas to my daughter and getting the 2019 Hybrid Limited for myself.

Does the new one have power passenger seat? The window sticker just says 8 way power driver seat and passenger seat advance and return. (Why have advance and return with no stow n go?)

Fog Lights?
Interior lighting the same?


I know it does not have HID's (rats)

Heated second row seats?
Power Folding Heated mirrors?

Anything else I might have missed? I know the third row seats are manual and the second row does not stow but I'll survive that.
 

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There's a long thread about it.

With hybrid, you get ride quality, instant torque and passing prowess. Crazy high mpg possible, if you plug in everyday. Better wear and tears on your drive system: oil, brakes, tires.

You lose all that you mentioned. The standard rim looks dorky, but more practical ie. save gas, less likely to get curbed. You lose vacuum cleaner.

You lose the stow and go, but they make it rather convenient to remove the 2nd row seats. There's a strap you can pull and detach the seats in all of 5 seconds. They weigh a good 50 - 70 lbs each though. Not as convenient, but passable especially since you usually carry either passengers or cargo at any given time. You can also remove one of the 2nd row seats for 3-4 seats configuration for carrying longer cargo like bicycles.

No idea why have advance return with no stow and go. If it's the 2nd row seat, may be used for access to the 3rd row?
 

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The lack of 2nd row seat heat is likely due to customers having to make the electrical connections each time, plus stowing the electrical connections. On the gas version, the electrical harness is wired into the Stow'n'Go components.

I'd imagine that the advance and return is a function of the new memory seats. Cheaper for Chrysler to list it as a feature than it is to remove it from the programming or have two sets of memory seat parts to differentiate the gas from the phev.
 

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You can try the compare on the canadian site try this: Here is the limited compared:
https://www.chrysler.ca/en/compare/2019-chrysler-pacificahybrid-limited-vs-2019-chrysler-limited-pacifica/comfort/CAC90CRV101C0/CAC90CRV091G0

Looks like the Hybrid does not have heated second row seats (just eats more battery)

Maybe that will help a little...
What?!... the hybrid doesn't have an illuminated glove box! ...and I just put a downpayment down on a hybrid last night!

oh well... maybe I'll stick a small battery powered tap light in there
 

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Auto advance and return is awesome for rear facing child seats. Send the front seat forward then slide 2nd row seat up for easier access to your child.
 

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No seat memory

What drives me crazy since I share kid duty with the wifey, is that it does not have seat memory. so it's a crap shoot readjusting the seat each time. lack of power folding windows is also unfortunate.
 

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What drives me crazy since I share kid duty with the wifey, is that it does not have seat memory. so it's a crap shoot readjusting the seat each time. lack of power folding windows is also unfortunate.
The original poster is asking about the 2019 Hybrid Limited. These do have memory seats and power folding mirrors.
 

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The original poster is asking about the 2019 Hybrid Limited. These do have memory seats and power folding windows.

Folding windows? Do you mean folding mirrors?

Does the 2019 have fog lights? And has anyone successfully added HID headlights?
 

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Folding windows? Do you mean folding mirrors?

Does the 2019 have fog lights? And has anyone successfully added HID headlights?
Sorry, yes I did mean power folding mirrors :) Yes, all trim levels have "premium fog lamps". I don't know of anyone who has added HID headlights. Somebody did switch to LED headlamps, but not HID.
 

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The hybrid lacks:
stow and go second row
Power folding 3rd row stow and go (manual instead)
Multiple interior lighting omissions including glove box
HID headlamps
Vacuum option
spare tire option
20" wheel option
ability to tow

Missing on prior years, but now available:
memory seats
power folding mirrors
auto advance and return driver and passenger seats
auto dimming mirror
garage door openers
hands free side door and liftgate
2nd and 3rd row window shades
 

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auto dimming mirror
garage door openers
hands free side door and liftgate
2nd and 3rd row window shades
All these are present on my 2018. Last year I highlighted all the differences between gas and hybrid here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xemx3nepcut450f/2018_Pacifica_Pacifica_Hybrid_Features_Highlighted.pdf?dl=0
Do 19 hybrids add anything else besides the power folding mirrors and seat memory?


I wanted to add the missing interior lighting to my van. Found no connectors for the glove box and lift gate lights. :(
 

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All these are present on my 2018. Last year I highlighted all the differences between gas and hybrid here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xemx3nepcut450f/2018_Pacifica_Pacifica_Hybrid_Features_Highlighted.pdf?dl=0
Do 19 hybrids add anything else besides the power folding mirrors and seat memory?


I wanted to add the missing interior lighting to my van. Found no connectors for the glove box and lift gate lights. :(
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that those items were strictly for 2019. Some early 2017s didn't have those items.

This is the change list for 2019 hybrid Limited:
Additions:
Exterior Mirrors with Memory
Power Folding Mirrors
Auto-Dimming Rear View Mirror
Driver Seat Memory
Memory audio
Driver Seat Auto Advance 'n Return
Passenger Seat Auto Advance 'n Return

Changes:
S Appearance Package ($795) replaces Hybrid Appearance Package ($395)

Some changes did not happen, at least not yet:
Copper and Molten have been removed, Maximum Steel and Luxury White are late model additions and so they are not listed yet.
New 17" wheels are not present on the 2019 build page. They look the same as the 2018 wheels.

Surprises:
Decreased fuel economy
* 2018:
--- MPGe: 84 combined
--- Fuel Economy - City 32
--- Fuel Economy - Combined 32
--- Fuel Economy - Highway 32
* 2019
--- MPGe: 82 combined
--- Fuel Economy - City 29
--- Fuel Economy - Combined 30
--- Fuel Economy - Highway 30
 

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We went from a 2017 touring to 2018 hybrid limited and were really sad that the advance and return was missing. With a rear facing seat it made it really easy for kids to get into that side of the van. The other thing we liked it for was more space for diaper changes on the floor! Oh well. Still loving the hybrid.


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I wanted to add the missing interior lighting to my van. Found no connectors for the glove box and lift gate lights. :(

Thanks stop-eject for doing the legwork as I would have liked to have the same in my (supposed) "Limited" hybrid. So much for top of the line and a bit odd for them to hard delete these basic and utilitarian features. Oh well, still love the van but always envious of what we could/should have had. :frown2:
 

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So we're in our 3rd gas model, 1st test drive and then two repairs on our hybrid. There is not a chance in the world we would buy a gas model pacifica. Driving experience is extremely different. Hybrid is much more thought out and developed. This go around we've noticed small stuff, car seat behind drivers seat. You lose 2 inches of drivers seat movement in the non-hybrid because the 2nd row seats aren't slidable. Other things, driving lamp on the dash is right at 2k rpm's, which is exact rpm you're at when driving on the highway. Cup holders on the 3rd row, my wife said there are less or non-existent on the drivers side 3rd row.
 

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Discussion Starter #19 (Edited)
Thanks everyone for your input. Now I'm waiting for local dealers to get some Limited Hybrid inventory in stock. I ordered my 2017 gas Limited and paid a premium to get exactly what I wanted, this time I want a discount and the $7500 tax credit.

I'll be looking for a silver with black interior limited with Advance Safety package, no sunroof.
 
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