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This is from previous Safetytec thread and don't want it to distract from that discussion, so here is new one to find out what is big difference between 7 seat vs 8 seat. How big is difference between 8 seat and 7 seat ? We never had 8 seat vehicle prior to this and want to know how much difference it is between two with regards to Pacifica. One advantage we had with Odyssey was the sliding middle row seats so it was easier to get in and out in Ody with 7 seats. People who have 7 seats vs 8 seats in their Pacifica, do you miss anything out ?
One thing that I came to know from others is if you go with 8 seat you cannot get Sunroof.
 

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8 seater loses sunroof and inner armrests on 2nd row seats. If you take the seat out you have the attachments in the floor vs 7 seater doesn't have them at all.

My reasoning for the 8th seat? It's a van. I bought it for more seats and have used the 8th more often than I thought I would.
 

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I didn't think we would use the 8th seat very often, but got it so we'd have the option if the need did arise. As it turns out, my 3 kids much prefer to all sit in the second row so that nobody has to climb into the back when we're just driving around town. So now we use the 8th seat every day.
 

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Same as the general, my 3 kids all sit in the middle row. Sometimes we leave the 3rd row flat, just more room for stroller and groceries.
 

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My rationale: 8th seat gives you a console for the kids - two drink holders and a storage spot. Much more useful than having a space of nothingness between the two seats.
 

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I want easy access to the third row so 7 seats was what we did. Kids aren't old enough to flip the seats up themselves, and they both have car seats which make it even harder. We don't need 7 seats, let alone 8, so I'd rather have the awesome sunroof, easy stow and go, and easy third row access. If we have a 5th person, they sit in the middle of the back, child or adult. My mil cant get in the back if we pop the captain forward (she wants to sit with the kids not in the front). Recently we've stowed the captain behind the passenger and had one kid behind the driver and one in the third row behind the passenger. Having that huge opening is so nice! Doubt I'd do that if I had to deal with the console, but maybe. Multiple times ive flattened the whole cargo area and not dealing with wrangling the extra seat out is awesome. Really depends what you need it for. For us it's an SUV with sliding doors.
 

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My rationale: 8th seat gives you a console for the kids - two drink holders and a storage spot. Much more useful than having a space of nothingness between the two seats.
Interesting, So people who go with 7 seat - what exactly is in center ? I mean is there a storage space in center where center seat goes ? Or if you go with 8 seats then only you get that option ?
 

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Interesting, So people who go with 7 seat - what exactly is in center ? I mean is there a storage space in center where center seat goes ? Or if you go with 8 seats then only you get that option ?
In the 7 seat version there is nothing between the seats:



In the 8 seat version you can flip down the middle seat for an arm rest with cupholders.

 

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In the 7 seat version there is nothing between the seats:



In the 8 seat version you can flip down the middle seat for an arm rest with cupholders.


The picture shows exactly what I eschewed the sunroof for the 8th seat. I posted in another thread that my perfect combo would be the sunroof and the console, no actual 8th seat, just the console - a true 7 passenger but with the storage and usability of the cup holders plus the very cool sunroof.
Functionality won out in my decision on the 8th seat and I am very happy with it.
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POV from someone with two kids:

We prefer a 7 seat configuration so we can access the third row through the middle. Our two kids are in car seats, one rear facing and one forward facing. The rear facing seat effectively blocks access from whatever side it's installed on. The tilt forward feature on the passenger side that allows access to the third row with a front facing car seat installed only works if you're using the latch anchors. The weight of the front facing seat + my daughter is near the top of the weight range for using the latch anchors, so we knew it wouldn't be long before we'd have to switch to using the seat belt. At that point, the only way to access the third row without removing a car seat is to go in front of the forward facing car seat and through the middle. If I slide the front passenger seat forward by pressing the stow-n-go button, I can even get access to the rear through the middle while my daughter is strapped into her car seat.

We thought about buying the 8-seater and storing the center seat in the garage until some time we find a use for it. Obviously, that gives you extra flexibility. But we didn't like the fact that the 2nd row seats don't have a center armrest with the center seat removed. That and the sunroof tilted us in favor of the 7-seater. We didn't care all that much about the sunroof and we don't use often, but we're getting more use out of it than we would have the 8th seat.
 

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The picture shows exactly what I eschewed the sunroof for the 8th seat. I posted in another thread that my perfect combo would be the sunroof and the console, no actual 8th seat, just the console - a true 7 passenger but with the storage and usability of the cup holders plus the very cool sunroof.
Functionality won out in my decision on the 8th seat and I am very happy with it.
John
You can buy aftermarket center consoles. My in-laws had one in their old Windstar with cupholders and a cooler.
 

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I got the 7 seater because the dealers seem to only order those in my city. I didn't want to order do get the best deal possible. If I were to order, I probably would have gotten the 8 seater, 18 inch wheels with Michelin tires and the black seats. Those are my only "regrets." My smallest child loves the sunroof and he's always looking out for a Trex to attack us through it.
 

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We went 8 seater because the flip down cupholder/armrest was a more comfortable armrest to us than the 7 seater armrest and the cupholder was more accessible to my daughter versus the cupholder on the back of the front console. I originally wanted the sunroof, but my wife was indifferent about it and we both liked the flip down cupholder/armrest, so the 8 seater won out.

We debated about the center seat not folding into the floor and having to remove it and set it aside, but quickly decided it didn't make sense for us to plan for a 'what-if' scenario that may happen once in 6 or 7 or perhaps 10 years time, whereas the cupholder/armrest is a daily usage item. My wife also felt the 8 seater felt more like an SUV and the 7 seater captain's chairs felt more like a mini-van.
 

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One thing that hasn't been mentioned regarding the 8th seat option is the 20" wheel and tire upgrade. Our 20" polished aluminum wheels give the car a much sportier look and they come with wheel locks. We had a loaner Pacifica while we waited for our ordered unit to come in and it had the 17" wheels. We feel the ride and looks are much better with the 20" plus the 8th seat (Console seat) pops in and out with one tug of a strap. It makes a great center console for the second row, but if you have kids, you may want the center open. Access to the 3rd row is easy though as the 2nd row seats easily tip forward. It's an even trade money wise to delete the sunroof and gain the 20" wheel and tire option. BTW, we love our Limited! Regards
 

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If you don't have kids, why would a console be useful in the 2nd row? Who would be sitting there (unless you are chauffer to your spouse or something like that).
 

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We no longer have children at home, but being retired we lead a very active social life and frequently chauffeur our couple friends for dinner engagements.
 

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A few examples from my own experience before we had kids:
- A vacation with other family members
- A road trip with friends
- Going skiing and golfing with friends
- Car pooling
- Driving coworkers out to lunch

There's a reason why few vehicles are sold without at least 4 seats.
 

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We have the 8 seater and 3 kids (2 in forward facing seats and 1 infant carrier). What works great for us is having the seat behind the passenger stowed in the floor and both front facing seats in the second row (middle and behind driver). Infant carrier is in the middle of the third row and my wife or I sit next to it with enough legroom to accommodate me (6' 5") since the seat is in the floor. Our decision though was based on the fact that in the past we have had the thought "Man it would be nice to have an extra seat" but never had the thought "man it would be nice to have a sun roof".


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Yeah, but the seat-turned-console is still a tradeoff as far as losing cargo space at that point (though optionally removable). Cup holders are nice, but less essential for a passenger than a driver. On a road trip, I might want that space to for room for gear, and for lunch runs, colleagues can hold onto their drinks. Don't get me wrong, I like cupholders, but at lower trim levels, if you don't ever plan on putting 3 across the 2nd row, that is a $500 cup holder!
 
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