The 18-19 only in trims below the Touring. So Touring and Elite Odysseys have a 10 speed that feels much better. In 2020 the 9 speed was totally eliminated and ALL Odysseys have the 10 speed.Do you know what year Odyssey's have the same transmission as the 17 Pacifica? I was actually looking to trade my Pacifica in for an Odyssey because of the Pacifica Transmission lurching. After reading your comment I'm heavily on the fence now.