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Damoncaravanman, did you find/install the airlift kit, I have an after market hitch and would like additional support

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I have an un-opened Air Lift kit that was for my 2014 Town and Country and I keep emailing Air Lift to see if it will fit or if they have made a kit yet and here was the last response from 3/9/2017:

" Nope still a work in progress.

We are getting one in here to take a look at in the next few weeks, but it will be a while before the kit will be approved and on the market if all goes well.

MIKE WHITELY
Customer Service Manager "
 

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Oem hitch is around $350, Harness $250. PLus couple small parts that the parts guy cannot locate. Installation my quote is $575 at $175/hr. Max towing 1500lbs. I didn't inquire about the sway bar and the larger radiator. Wish Chrysler comes up with towing install package.
Chrysler really doesn't have any incentive to offer a non-factory installed tow package as no one would order the factory package if the after kit was cheaper. Tongue weight really suffers with an after market setup for all who are contemplating a cargo carrier. 150# is pretty low and then you have to deduct the weight of the carrier before adding cargo. Couple of bikes maybe or a couple of tubs.
 

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Hi.

I am thinking about installing a towing hitch to my Pacifca too.
I don't like these bulky big hitches sticking out under bumpers. Can anyone post pictures of installed aftermarket hitch?
How visible they are from a side and back? Which one is more "hidden"?

Draw-Tite - Class 3
https://www.carid.com/2017-chrysler-pacifica-trailer-hitches/draw-tite-rear-trailer-hitches-123245812.html

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CURT - Class 3
https://www.carid.com/2017-chrysler-pacifica-trailer-hitches/curt-rear-trailer-hitches-138331440.html

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There's an excellent write up in the general discussion section by 11 kings, with pictures.
 

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...Tongue weight really suffers with an after market setup for all who are contemplating a cargo carrier. 150# is pretty low ...
Not sure where you got that from. Maybe for a 1.25" hitch? The 2" DrawTite and Curt hitches are over 400 lbs and more than the Mopar OEM hitch at 350 lbs. I agree, weird since they only bolt on at the bottom and are not integrated into the bumper frame like the OEM hitch.

Don't forget the loss in height with the aftermarket hitches.
 

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Not sure where you got that from. Maybe for a 1.25" hitch? The 2" DrawTite and Curt hitches are over 400 lbs and more than the Mopar OEM hitch at 350 lbs..
Those numbers are meaningless. The ONLY numbers that matter are the ones published by FCA in the owner's manual... and that says the maximum tongue weight for vehicles without the factory tow package is 150#

Towing weights is always the LOWEST of the vehicle's numbers and the aftermarket hitch's numbers.
 

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Those numbers are meaningless. The ONLY numbers that matter are the ones published by FCA in the owner's manual... and that says the maximum tongue weight for vehicles without the factory tow package is 150#

Towing weights is always the LOWEST of the vehicle's numbers and the aftermarket hitch's numbers.


Trailer tongue weight and the weight of a hitch mounted accessory (i.e. bike rack) are two different things.


The trailer tongue weight is measured at the receiver ball which places the weight closer to the rear axle than where the weight of a fully loaded bike rack would be. This means the loaded bike rack may need to weigh less than the max rated tongue weight. But not necessarily.


The max tongue weight is an important consideration when towing a trailer as it is related to overall stability of the tow vehicle and trailer combination. However, for an hitch mounted accessory, "tongue weight" is not a factor. It really comes down to how much weight can the suspension carry as well as the trailer hitch itself.


The max tongue weight is generally rated at 10% of the max trailer weight. This appears to be the case with the Pacifica. With respect to load on the hitch, this only means that the tongue weight cannot exceed 150 pounds when towing a max trailer weight of 1500 pounds.


Given there is nothing that indicates the factory installed trailer package includes any suspension upgrades that increases the Pacifica's weight carrying capacity, a Pacifica without the factory trailer tow package should have the same hitch accessory weight carrying capacity as one with the factory trailer tow package.


The things to consider is that the hitch mounted accessory weight does not exceed the capacity of the hitch and the amount and location of the weight behind the vehicle does not affect vehicle stability.


Think about this, you would not want to place 700 pounds of something in the Pacifica behind the third row seats. The van can certainly haul 700 pounds with no problem but all that weight at the back will make the van unstable. This is similar for the hitch mounted accessory. It is about weight location not "tongue weight".
 

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I am confused about this. I came looking because even though the dealership that sold us the van assured us that it was rated for 3600 lbs I am now seeing that the Mopar page for my car says 1500. I was adamant that I only wanted a van that could haul my husband's scooter and tow at least a small pop up camper The one that we were looking at was about 2500 lbs loaded. I also explained that we needed to be able to tow a handicap scooter and an electronic lift for it - the 2 together weigh around 225 lbs. Maybe a little more. I wouldn't even go look at it until I made sure of the towing capacity.

They had to check to make sure my van rated for that. I think they even called us back the next day because they wanted to make sure that was what it was rated for. Even once we came in to see it we made them double check because I didn't want anything that couldn't tow what we needed it to.

As it is my husband's scooter has been sitting for almost a year because we've had so much trouble with the van that we still haven't gotten a hitch on it. We had it scheduled to be done last December. But the check engine light came back on and the dealership had it for so long that we couldn't get it done before we traveled at Christmas. I was going to get done in Florida but it had to go back in the shop again. and again... It hasn't been out of the shop long enough in the months since to get it done. Not that I would want to when the van is defective.

After I saw the 1500 lb rating I tried asking "Chrysler Cares" and they never answered. The salesman insists that they confirmed that it was rated for 3600 lbs. Which I swear is what the Mopar site said when I first signed up. It doesn't now though.

I am so fed up with Chrysler. My husband is disabled and there are times that he really needs his scooter. On top of that when we visit my parents we would usually take our van because it's large. My dad always needs his scooter. Now I'm finding out that I might have been misinformed about yet another thing by Chrysler representatives. Looks like others were mislead too. Are salesman really allowed to lie in order to get a sale?
 

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@WolfsLady sorry you're in a frustrating situation. Does your van have the tow package? It should state that on your window sticker. If yes, it is rated at 3600lbs from the factory.

If no, there are aftermarket hitches made for our vans that are rated to 3500-4000lbs (here's one from Curt: https://www.curtmfg.com/part/13383). The tow package from factory is welded directly to the beefy metal bumper so it looks to be stronger than one you'd add in later (in my opinion), however, I've used Curt aftermarket hitches before and they are a good brand. Hard to tell whether Chrysler is downplaying aftermarket hitches by saying they can only do 1500lbs because the mounting location on the van is less strong than factory OR they just want to push their factory option. After inspecting the factory tow hitch just now, I'm impressed with the structure so it may in fact be a stronger (safer) way to tow 3600lbs. While there are other features that come with the factory tow package, the most important is how the hitch attaches to the vehicle which gives it strength. You'd be best to consult with a reputable aftermarket hitch shop and see what they say about the strength of an aftermarket hitch rated for 3500lbs (like the link I enclosed above) - that shop may stand behind their assessment and installation based on how it is mounted on the van.

As for what salesmen/women tell you, that's no different from one dealer to the next (across ALL car companies, no need to single out Chrysler, though some dealers may be less slimy than others) - it sounds bad, but you have to assume sales people DON'T KNOW ANYTHING about the vehicles they sell and instead do your own research. READ the published sales literature, even read this forum. I've witnessed many sales people lie - not always maliciously, just out of ignorance.

On a side note, if your van's been in the shop so long, maybe that dealer's the problem? might not hurt to get it somewhere else for a fresh set of eyes or perhaps they have more experience
 

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After I saw the 1500 lb rating I tried asking "Chrysler Cares" and they never answered. The salesman insists that they confirmed that it was rated for 3600 lbs. Which I swear is what the Mopar site said when I first signed up. It doesn't now though.
I also am annoyed about the misleading tow rating. At my dealer I even signed a separate piece of paper that states if I tow more then 3600 lbs I will void the warranty. However, I do not have a factory tow package. I would have happily bought one with the tow package, but none were available at my trim level.

If you read around on this forum you will find many people, including myself, who tow above 1500 lbs without the factory tow package. You will need to install a 7 pin adapter and brake controller to tow anything above 1500 lbs, but that can be easily done.

As for the wheelchair, if it is indeed 225 lbs, as long as you stay under 300 lbs when according for the weight of the hitch carrier you should be fine. You will likely see some rear suspension sag at that weight, and you will need to be careful about how much additional cargo you carry.
 

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Completely agree with your post Matt, just one caveat:

If you read around on this forum you will find many people, including myself, who tow above 1500 lbs without the factory tow package. You will need to install a 7 pin adapter and brake controller to tow anything above 1500 lbs, but that can be easily done.
That's not necessarily true, it all depends on the braking system of the trailer. My 3,500-lb boat has hydraulic surge brakes, which require no electrical input from the van at all. No reason to upgrade beyond a 4-pin connector unless you need to power the reverse circuit to disengage the trailer brakes, which I don't think is usually necessary unless you have drum brakes.



I have a 7-pin adapter for the reverse circuit, as well as to power brakes on my ATV trailer.



At this point I have more towing miles than empty on my Pacifica, and it's done a fantastic job. The boat is 3,500 lbs, and the Pioneer is 2,700 lbs on the trailer. I've never seen coolant go above 232*, or the transmission hit 200*. I'm very comfortable with those temps, and missing the factory towing package hasn't been a problem for me at all.
 

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Completely agree with your post Matt, just one caveat:



At this point I have more towing miles than empty on my Pacifica, and it's done a fantastic job. The boat is 3,500 lbs, and the Pioneer is 2,700 lbs on the trailer. I've never seen coolant go above 232*, or the transmission hit 200*. I'm very comfortable with those temps, and missing the factory towing package hasn't been a problem for me at all.

@TomB985

Have you towed at altitude or steep grades with those weights? I recently rented a Pacifica and traveled though the Rockies, no trailer but it was at capacity or slightly above with interior cargo. The pacifica handled the mtns and altitude just fine at highway speeds, but very poorly at low speeds (sub 25 mph in national parks). The transmission simply did not know what to do.
 

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@TomB985

Have you towed at altitude or steep grades with those weights? I recently rented a Pacifica and traveled though the Rockies, no trailer but it was at capacity or slightly above with interior cargo. The pacifica handled the mtns and altitude just fine at highway speeds, but very poorly at low speeds (sub 25 mph in national parks). The transmission simply did not know what to do.
Very interesting. I've had some steep grades in the 8-9% range, but none of them are very long. I'm located in MN, so we don't have the mountains that you have to live with. Likewise, our roads are relatively high speed, and the overwhelming majority of my miles are 55-70 MPH.

I've always thought the transmission was programmed quite well. Almost too well for my tastes, this thing does not want to upshift after it's forced to downshift. I'm kind of anal about fuel economy, so I like to be in the highest gear possible. I'm certain it's better for transmission life with less gear hunting, so I can't complain about it.
 

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@WolfsLady sorry you're in a frustrating situation. Does your van have the tow package? It should state that on your window sticker. If yes, it is rated at 3600lbs from the factory.

If no, there are aftermarket hitches made for our vans that are rated to 3500-4000lbs (here's one from Curt: https://www.curtmfg.com/part/13383). The tow package from factory is welded directly to the beefy metal bumper so it looks to be stronger than one you'd add in later (in my opinion), however, I've used Curt aftermarket hitches before and they are a good brand. Hard to tell whether Chrysler is downplaying aftermarket hitches by saying they can only do 1500lbs because the mounting location on the van is less strong than factory OR they just want to push their factory option. After inspecting the factory tow hitch just now, I'm impressed with the structure so it may in fact be a stronger (safer) way to tow 3600lbs. While there are other features that come with the factory tow package, the most important is how the hitch attaches to the vehicle which gives it strength. You'd be best to consult with a reputable aftermarket hitch shop and see what they say about the strength of an aftermarket hitch rated for 3500lbs (like the link I enclosed above) - that shop may stand behind their assessment and installation based on how it is mounted on the van.

As for what salesmen/women tell you, that's no different from one dealer to the next (across ALL car companies, no need to single out Chrysler, though some dealers may be less slimy than others) - it sounds bad, but you have to assume sales people DON'T KNOW ANYTHING about the vehicles they sell and instead do your own research. READ the published sales literature, even read this forum. I've witnessed many sales people lie - not always maliciously, just out of ignorance.

On a side note, if your van's been in the shop so long, maybe that dealer's the problem? might not hurt to get it somewhere else for a fresh set of eyes or perhaps they have more experience
Whenever I looked up the specs for the Chrysler Pacifica it always said that it was rated for the higher tow weight. One dealership out of all the ones we visited said something about a lower tow weight, so I made sure to ask after that. And when we decided that this was the one that we were most interested in purchasing we insisted that they be 100% sure of the tow weight limit.

I don't know what the original sticker said because we purchased it used from a Chrysler Dealership. Biggest mistake ever.

It has already been in 2 different dealerships for repairs, since we purchased it. 1 in Florida and 1 here in Texas. Both dealerships got a Star Team involved after multiple failed attempts to repair it. The one here in Texas had another specialist from Chrysler who they worked with. I think they said a "Factory Service Specialist." I'm exhausted right now so I might have the name wrong. They had our Chrysler Pacifica for over 6 weeks while they worked with them. - put at least 400 miles on my van test driving it, gave it back finally fixed. Yeah, NO! 2 days later the check engine light came back on. That was almost a month ago, It's in the shop now. "Waiting on the specialist" because the dealership said that they have no clue what else to try. The specialist must be very busy because it takes him weeks to get back to them. But maybe they have just decided not to continue trying repair our van? Fine with us being stuck, or weeks on end, in something that we despise?
 

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The installation was easy. I didn't have to jack up van. The instructions have you cut away more heat shield and trim panel than you have to. I only cut about 1/3 of the
recommended area. Experiment; you can always trim more. The hardest part are the rubber hangers for the exhaust. Put dish soap on them to make them easier to remove/install.
Threading the bolts wasn't too hard. I used anti-seize on the bolts and torqued them to 110 ft/lbs. Nuts above muffler required universal joint. Whole job took me about 90 minutes.[/quote]

Do you feel there is any danger in cutting away part of the heat shield. Any excessive heat impacts thus far on your vehicle?
 

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Have you experienced any negative effects of cutting away part of the heat shield? It is there for a reason and I’m a bit concerned about doing the hitch install. I am glad that less cutting away is a possibility you discovered.
Do you have a diagram or photo of the cut?
 
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