[AAMC]

Alright, I know some of you have the itch! I do too, but my wife hates it when I modify her cars. I'm probably going to just end up doing a tint and Xpel paint protection, but it doesn't stop me from looking. I've been searching for the offsets of all the different OEM Pacifica wheels, but haven't been able to find them. I'm thinking it will be an offset +45 for the OEM's. All I know is that the bolt pattern is 5 x 5/127. Don't know center bore (but aftermarkets typically ship with centering rings anyway, info still would be helpful).


I think 20" looks very proportional to the Pacifica; the current Honda Odyssey TE's ship with 18's, which I thought were a little small, especially when you evaluated it against the concept van in 2010. Some Odyssey owners on another forum have bumped up to 20's, which I think look great depending on the style (but that's personal preference anyway).


So naturally, when I'm looking, I already know that the Pacifica looks great with 20's, and then it begs the question, 22's??? LOL!!! In all seriousness, in an aftermarket 20" wheel, probably looking at 8-9" width with an offset range +35-45, +35 and below probably getting a little more aggressive, tire section width 245-265 (have to still look at aspect ratio's to match overall stock diameter). A 22" wheel would probably have the same range offsets, and be in a 8-10" in width range.


Not many online aftermarket wheel retailers have updated their sites. I've been just taking information from various sites and extrapolating. It does look like the older Pacificas (in name only) seem to closely match the current Pacificas for specs. If so, it looks like there are plenty of options out there...

 

[Fastskiguy]

Subbed! Thank you sir!

 

[daniel9478]

The factory offset is 50.8mm (i.e. 2"). Anything less than that and you'll have the center of the wheel sticking out further than the factory ones (which you can decide if you want). There have also been discussions that the wheel well liners can be fairly close to the tires on the rear wheels, so you may not want to push the tire widths too far past the factory widths. The center bore is 71.5mm, matching other Chrysler products, including Jeeps, etc.

All of the above is based on my measurements and data collection in preparation for my planned wheel upgrades, but I'm just having a hard time with "throwing away" the wheels and tires that came with it, are well-balanced, and working fine for now.

 

[AAMC]

The factory offset is 50.8mm (i.e. 2"). Anything less than that and you'll have the center of the wheel sticking out further than the factory ones (which you can decide if you want). There have also been discussions that the wheel well liners can be fairly close to the tires on the rear wheels, so you may not want to push the tire widths too far past the factory widths. The center bore is 71.5mm, matching other Chrysler products, including Jeeps, etc.

All of the above is based on my measurements and data collection in preparation for my planned wheel upgrades, but I'm just having a hard time with "throwing away" the wheels and tires that came with it, are well-balanced, and working fine for now.

Thanks for the info. I'm waiting until the van arrives to take some measurements. It did catch my eye that the rear fender liners are relatively close to the tire tread, but have not looked at clearances on the inner aspect of the wheels/tires. I usually have more concerns about the fronts, but thanks for bringing that up.

 

[Killertom8o]

Been also kicking around the idea of upgrading our stock 18" wheels. Visited a local wheel shop this afternoon and they mentioned the 2017 Pacifica has a default spec of 5x127 +35 offset. Would love a 22" x 9" setup all around powder coated matte merlot to match the Limited edition cranberry interior. Did a quick and dirty mockup of what the VPS-303 would look like. I did a quick and dirty mockup using fellow forum member irpilot's profile shot of his Granite Limited Pacifica. Hope he doesn't mind.

Vossen VPS-303
VPS-303 ? Vossen Forged

CVT (Gloss Graphite)
Vossen Wheels

 

[irpilot]

Been also kicking around the idea of upgrading our stock 18" wheels. Visited a local wheel shop this afternoon and they mentioned the 2017 Pacifica has a default spec of 5x127 +35 offset. Would love a 22" x 9" setup all around powder coated matte merlot to match the Limited edition cranberry interior. Did a quick and dirty mockup of what the VPS-303 would look like. I did a quick and dirty mockup using fellow forum member irpilot's profile shot of his Granite Limited Pacifica. Hope he doesn't mind.

Vossen VPS-303
VPS-303 ? Vossen Forged

CVT (Gloss Graphite)
Vossen Wheels

I don't mind at all. That looks really good! Nicely done.

 

[AAMC]

Been also kicking around the idea of upgrading our stock 18" wheels. Visited a local wheel shop this afternoon and they mentioned the 2017 Pacifica has a default spec of 5x127 +35 offset. Would love a 22" x 9" setup all around powder coated matte merlot to match the Limited edition cranberry interior. Did a quick and dirty mockup of what the VPS-303 would look like. I did a quick and dirty mockup using fellow forum member irpilot's profile shot of his Granite Limited Pacifica. Hope he doesn't mind.

Vossen VPS-303
VPS-303 ? Vossen Forged

CVT (Gloss Graphite)
Vossen Wheels

I like Vossens, but do they have wheels available in our bolt pattern? Or can they do a custom drill?

 

[Fastskiguy]

I have just one word for you guys. Group Buy!!

 

[generaltso]

I have just one word for you guys. Group Buy!!

That's two words

 

[Tsuter]

I too am jonesing to upgrade wheels, but 22s seem too excessive. 20s would be good as wide as possible, and flush. That would be nice. Those vossen wheels look nice, but I'm more a fan of the multi spoke more spindley looking wheels. Keep the info coming and make sure to post pics as you guys go. This will be a valuable resource for all of us.

 

[Limited_808]

I too was looking at the Vossens but it seems as if they do not make them in our lug pattern....but could possibly call the company direct to see if the do a custom drill.

 

[Blitz]

Been also kicking around the idea of upgrading our stock 18" wheels. Visited a local wheel shop this afternoon and they mentioned the 2017 Pacifica has a default spec of 5x127 +35 offset. Would love a 22" x 9" setup all around powder coated matte merlot to match the Limited edition cranberry interior. Did a quick and dirty mockup of what the VPS-303 would look like. I did a quick and dirty mockup using fellow forum member irpilot's profile shot of his Granite Limited Pacifica. Hope he doesn't mind.

Vossen VPS-303
VPS-303 ? Vossen Forged

CVT (Gloss Graphite)
Vossen Wheels

I do not think that a +35 offset is correct. My Pacifica has factory 18" wheels and on the back of the wheel it clearly says "50.8". I don't know if the 17" and 20" wheels use the same offset, but the offset for the 18" is +50.8.

 

[generaltso]

I do not think that a +35 offset is correct. My Pacifica has factory 18" wheels and on the back of the wheel it clearly says "50.8". I don't know if the 17" and 20" wheels use the same offset, but the offset for the 18" is +50.8.

I think you're right. The winter wheels that I got from Tire Rack spec'd out with a 50mm offset. (19"x 8")

 

[Tsuter]

You have to remember that when you change widths the offset can be affected as well. If you are trying to stay with same width, same offset, then yes you would want the numbers to be close, but if you are adding a wider wheel, you may end up with different offsets to get the wheel to sit in the right location in relation to the chassis.

 

[Blitz]

You have to remember that when you change widths the offset can be affected as well. If you are trying to stay with same width, same offset, then yes you would want the numbers to be close, but if you are adding a wider wheel, you may end up with different offsets to get the wheel to sit in the right location in relation to the chassis.

That is true. If you have the same offset but two wheels have a different width, the backspacing will be different as well. For instance, as I pointed our before, my stock 18x7.5 wheels have an offset of 50.8. However, the wheels that I am thinking about buying for winter tires are 18x8. They have an offset of 45, but the backspacing of the two wheels are the same (6.3"). Backspacing is important because it affects how close the tire is to the inside of the wheel well, and that distance on the Pacifica is quite small.

 

[daniel9478]

That is true. If you have the same offset but two wheels have a different width, the backspacing will be different as well. For instance, as I pointed our before, my stock 18x7.5 wheels have an offset of 50.8. However, the wheels that I am thinking about buying for winter tires are 18x8. They have an offset of 45, but the backspacing of the two wheels are the same (6.3"). Backspacing is important because it affects how close the tire is to the inside of the wheel well, and that distance on the Pacifica is quite small.

To respectfully disagree with part of this (or at least the way it is described), I believe that 2 wheels of the same offset (even if different widths) will put the center of the wheel in the same location with regard to the chassis. As a single tire width can fit multiple wheel widths (within reason), if the offset is the same and the tire width is the same, the tire will be the same distance from the inside of the wheel well, even if you have 2 different wheel widths (and different backspacings).

Note that it is true that the wheel lip itself will be closer to the wheel well, but it's the center of the wheel that you want to use as your reference point, in my opinion.

 

[Blitz]

To respectfully disagree with part of this (or at least the way it is described), I believe that 2 wheels of the same offset (even if different widths) will put the center of the wheel in the same location with regard to the chassis. As a single tire width can fit multiple wheel widths (within reason), if the offset is the same and the tire width is the same, the tire will be the same distance from the inside of the wheel well, even if you have 2 different wheel widths (and different backspacings).

Note that it is true that the wheel lip itself will be closer to the wheel well, but it's the center of the wheel that you want to use as your reference point, in my opinion.

I am no expert, so you may be correct. I think that we both agree that if you have two wheels with different widths but the same offset, then the wider wheel would be closer to the inside of the wheel well. Now, if you put the same widh tires on those two different width wheels, I assumed that the tire on the wider wheel would bulge out more from its sidewall (obviously not its tread). Am I wrong about that? I actuall hope that I am wrong because that would make the width of the wheel less important than I thought.

 

[daniel9478]

I am no expert, so you may be correct. I think that we both agree that if you have two wheels with different widths but the same offset, then the wider wheel would be closer to the inside of the wheel well. Now, if you put the same widh tires on those two different width wheels, I assumed that the tire on the wider wheel would bulge out more from its sidewall (obviously not its tread). Am I wrong about that? I actuall hope that I am wrong because that would make the width of the wheel less important than I thought.

I thought about that a while back too, but the research I did at the time (admittedly just from websites) seemed to indicate that as long as the wheel was within the acceptable range for the tire, the inner structure of the tire still kept the overall size very close.

I'm not saying that there would be absolutely no difference, but my understanding was that it should be negligible.

 

[Blitz]

I thought about that a while back too, but the research I did at the time (admittedly just from websites) seemed to indicate that as long as the wheel was within the acceptable range for the tire, the inner structure of the tire still kept the overall size very close.

I'm not saying that there would be absolutely no difference, but my understanding was that it should be negligible.

Thanks. I feel a bit more confident that I can order wheels for winter tires that are a half inch wider than the oem wheels with a couple of mm more in offset. If the half inch of extra wheel width won't make a difference, then 2 or 3 mm more offset won't matter much either. I was concerned because there is so little space between the rear tires and the inside of the wheel well.

 

[daniel9478]

Thanks. I feel a bit more confident that I can order wheels for winter tires that are a half inch wider than the oem wheels with a couple of mm more in offset. If the half inch of extra wheel width won't make a difference, then 2 or 3 mm more offset won't matter much either. I was concerned because there is so little space between the rear tires and the inside of the wheel well.

If the difference is really that small, I really don't think you'll have a problem. If you do, I found some very nice 5 mm spacers online that I plan on using with some OEM Durango wheels. They're very well made and are an exact fit for our hubs. Let me know if you need the info on them.