[ThisSuckersElectrical]

They all lose $5-$10,000 in value as soon as you drive off a new car dealers lot.

That is not true. My 2021 Pinnacle MSRP 52,720.00, 47,960.00 OTD a unicorn fully loaded with everything that 2022+ are missing (third glass, power fold mirrors, etc.), I will have had two years this coming May,

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I just ran the VIN in Kelly Blue Book and this is what it is valued as of today 01/20/2023.
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I am still way ahead with the 7,500 tax credit and all the fuel I have saved the past two years.

Sold my previous 2018 for more than what I bought it for new.

 

[ThisSuckersElectrical]

I had a 20 PacHy Limited that I sold to buy my 21. Considering that I got the $7500 tax credit, I didn’t lose anything.

I did the same thing. View the link in my previous post and see what I did.

 

[ThisSuckersElectrical]

Back in the good ol' days, you'd have 8-10k off the MSRP price PLUS the $7500 tax credit. You can't get a cheaper van than that. My 2021 Pinnacle, which was under $44k OTD plus the $7500 tax credit, is still worth around $48-$49k. It has more options than a 2022 and is not easy to find these days.

Yeah, I missed out on that. Had I done it a few months earlier I could have scored with discounts like stopeject and you did. With the increase in used values when I upgraded it wasn't too much of a difference I missed out on.

 

[ThisSuckersElectrical]

Also a pretty bad time to check used car values as they have been declining over the past several months and returning to normal.

Haven't seen anything like that. Everything I have seen is sky-high compared to three years ago.

 

[ThisSuckersElectrical]

it's really nice it looks more SUV than van so it's a little less soccer Momish.lol..

Soccer moms stopped driving minivans like 15 years ago and switched to SUVs. I don't know of any soccer mom that would be caught dead in a minivan because it would make their Karin image look bad.

All the "soccer moms" I see today are driving Tellurides, Explorers, Expeditions, or Tahoes. They can't afford Excursions, Suburbans, or Grand Wagoneers.