Back in the good ol' days, you'd have 8-10k off the MSRP price PLUS the $7500 tax credit. You can't get a cheaper van than that. My 2021 Pinnacle, which was under $44k OTD plus the $7500 tax credit, is still worth around $48-$49k. It has more options than a 2022 and is not easy to find these days.