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Just thought I would share my experience with everyone here thinking about leasing this van. I am in the Seattle area:

We had the opportunity today to put down a deposit on a PacHy Platinum that they had enroute. Turned out it had a VIN and they were able to give me numbers.

Don't waste your time trying to lease this van yet. The dealer(s) know ZERO about how it will work, especially with the tax credit. I just wasted 2.5 hours of my day trying to haggle with them and got no where. The numbers just seemed WAY out of wack. They didn't seem confident in what they were showing me just because they don't have any history to go off of for the hybrid.

They gave me 48 months, 0.002 MF, Residual of 50%, MSRP was 49k (I think they marked it up, Platinum with a couple cheap extras, I wasn't too happy about this) After convincing them to hypothetically take $7500 off the MSRP as a "discount" for the tax credit, the monthly payment was still at nearly $650/month with $3K down payment.

Like some have said here already, this will be an extremely expensive lease. I hope others can find better deals. Maybe the dealers around here are just not in the loop yet. If not, maybe wait 6 months and see how the inventories pick up, and once they get all the lease information figured out.

I am really bummed, but happy at the same time that we didn't talk ourselves into this lease. It will be an awesome van I am sure. But if these are the lease numbers...you might as well finance the entire thing.

I think the biggest issue here is Chrysler's website. They had this same exact van starting at a $500/month lease, BEFORE the tax credit is factored in. The website is what got me in the dealerships door. Don't be fooled.
 

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They could have been released today, but not yesterday. My dealer is gonna get back to me on Friday, so I'll keep you posted. They might have been using US Bank numbers instead of Chrysler Capital. My understanding is that with the $7500 capital cost reduction this lease should be a pretty good deal, even with a mediocre money factor and residual. I'm planning to put 3k down and have this lease be below $350/month...worst case below $400.

We've had this thread going since December: http://www.pacificaforums.com/forum...s-tax-credits/6537-possible-lease-hybrid.html
 

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As of yesterday the Chrysler capital lease numbers had not been released. I'm planning to lease and my dealer was told the lease numbers would be released when the vans ship and/or arrive.
They could have been released today, but not yesterday. My dealer is gonna get back to me on Friday, so I'll keep you posted. They might have been using US Bank numbers instead of Chrysler Capital. My understanding is that with the $7500 capital cost reduction this lease should be a pretty good deal, even with a mediocre money factor and residual. I'm planning to put 3k down and have this lease be below $350/month...worst case below $400.
Those are the exact numbers we are shooting for too. $350-400/month, $3K down. Time will tell I guess.

I have 2 other dealers on the hook to let me know when they have lease numbers. It was just unexpected today that this dealer had numbers for us when we were just coming in to put down a deposit to reserve one.
 

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Does anyone know if the California state rebate $1500 will also get knocked off the capital cost, like the federal credit? The dealer I was asking last night sort of automatically wrote off leasing, mumbling something about how I wouldn't get to take advantage of the tax credit at all (implying federal and state?), which didn't seem right...
 

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Does anyone know if the California state rebate $2500 will also get knocked off the capital cost, like the federal credit? The dealer I was asking last night sort of automatically wrote off leasing, mumbling something about how I wouldn't get to take advantage of the tax credit at all (implying federal and state?), which didn't seem right...
FYI the California rebate is $1500 for plug-in hybrid electric vehicles

https://cleanvehiclerebate.org/eng/eligible-vehicles
 
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Does anyone know if the California state rebate $2500 will also get knocked off the capital cost, like the federal credit? The dealer I was asking last night sort of automatically wrote off leasing, mumbling something about how I wouldn't get to take advantage of the tax credit at all (implying federal and state?), which didn't seem right...
The California rebate is just that, a rebate. They will send you the money directly instead of it being done with taxes. The reason the Fed credit is done as a down payment is that FCA or the bank takes that tax credit. Similar to leasing solar panels.

Also, if you have PG&E, they will give you $500 for letting them know you got a plugin. Just an FYI.
 
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