Rumor is that regular gas powered Pacificas manufactured in January forward will have engine stop-start:
News | Pacifica to get stop-start?
News | Pacifica to get stop-start?
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Glad I bought early. We had this in our Cherokee and it was unnerving to say the least. You could disable it, but it turned back on when you restarted and had to disable it again and again. Sorry, I'd rather sacrifice that small fraction increase in the gas mileage than go through that hesitation each time you started off from a stoplight. It's just not natural and I for one would never get use to it.
Yea, I was initially thinking that it would be nice but I have a feeling it would be an annoyance, like you said. I will be in a conundrum if they start putting in the new Uconnect with Android Auto and they put in the stop-start at the same time. Definitely would prefer having android auto but not sold on stop-start. They need to make a way that you can permanently disable the stop-start in the system. Obviously, it's possible. They may have to make it that way in order for the EPA to provide a better city MPG rating.
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Interesting. Maybe our 2016-built Pacificas without stop/start will be a rare and highly desirable breed! 
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A small amount. But if it gets them 1mpg better in the city, it would likely be enough to push the combined rating to 23 which would pull ahead of Honda and Toyota, at least until the new Odyssey ratings are announced.
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It will very likely have a button to disable it like other Chrysler vehicles. However, the disable will not be persistent through a restart, so you'll have to hit the button to disable it all the time. I believe this is a requirement to get the EPA to certify the MPG numbers.
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We had the stop/start in a rental car last year in Florida and it took some getting-used-to. I kept inadvertently "overriding" it though simply by "creeping" at stop signals. If the drivers in front of you creep-forward and you do the same, it will start back up again and NOT re-engage until the NEXT full-stop at another light. I guess they factored-in trying to distinguish if you're "STOPPED" at a light, or in stop-and-go traffic which would get UNUSABLE if that engaged every time.
So—at least in THAT car—if you wanted to override it... you stop at your light with "room to spare"... and when it shuts-off, creep forward a little and stop again and it will NOT shut off on you.
So—at least in THAT car—if you wanted to override it... you stop at your light with "room to spare"... and when it shuts-off, creep forward a little and stop again and it will NOT shut off on you.
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Glad mine doesnt have start stop the epa would not recognize the mileage if you could permently disable it.Any thing the goverment is involved with sometines sucks like the tire pressure monitoring system.Where I live you would have to check them everyday to keep them on 36 lbs. air pressure.On my 2013 town and country in town the econo button sucked big time but at least you could disable it if you wanted.
Glad mine doesnt have start stop the epa would not recognize the mileage if you could permently disable it.Any thing the goverment is involved with sometines sucks like the tire pressure monitoring system.Where I live you would have to check them everyday to keep them on 36 lbs. air pressure.On my 2013 town and country in town the econo button sucked big time but at least you could disable it if you wanted.
2021 Pacifica Limited S AWD - Black. Premium and Safety Sphere - UConnect Theater - 20”
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Yes I just found out that mine (scheduled to be built 1/30) will have this.
Yippie!! :crying: I hope I can just pull a fuse and make it go away!!
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It won't be that simple to permanently disable, unfortunately. Who told you that your van will have ESS? The dealer?
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Yup, it's a different engine code for the ESS 3.6.
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I did that a lot with our Cherokee, it's still a PITA to work with. And yeah, once it restarted from a creep, it stayed on. If I were to use one word to describe it, that would be that, "CREEPY"....
What does your build sheet say for your Uconnect 8.4? Anything that might indicate the 4th gen Uconnect?
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When I got into the Pacifica earlier today, the light was hitting the dash just right that I could see all of the warning lights (not lit up). This is a terrible pictures, but if you look at the bottom you can see a light for ESS. It's the "A" with an arrow encircling it that the turn signal is pointing at. Since we all apparently have a spot for that light, it's looking pretty definite that ESS is coming.
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This isn't something that would be updated in pre-existing Pacificas is it?
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No chance. It requires tightly integrated hardware, which likely includes a beefed up battery and starter.
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My build sheet is not available yet. I talked to my salesperson.
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I found this article about the ESS coming in later 2017 models. I have one being built right now. Guess it will be coming with ESS...
I found this article about the ESS coming in later 2017 models. I have one being built right now. Guess it will be coming with ESS...
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