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If you want a read from someone skeptical of everything the hybrid folks are pursuing, this is a good read, especially the first one. The second one I'll leave to others to discern, since my generation mix is fairly renewable, and I don't believe the claims about centralized fossil fuel burning being less efficient than decentralized have much weight.
 

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Thanks for posting that video!! I noticed he was in Ottawa! It's good to know they're around now. Can't wait to get mine!!
 

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Yeah snow tires hurt fuel economy a lot, as does the cold in general. We have a TDI and the winter fuel consumption is noticeably worse than summer. There's more rolling resistance from the tires, more friction from cold oil in the bearings and transmission, the engine is cold and works less efficiently, heck, even the outside air is denser! We notice about a 1 to 2 L/100km consumption hit in the TDI during the winter months, I imagine this car would be no different. Especially if this one needs to run the oil engine more for cabin heat. I'm hoping the numbers work in the summer months though. With our TDI we got better than spec numbers in the summer on fuel economy but if this one does as advertised we'd be happy.
 

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Hey JabstaFiend, thanks for sharing our review.

Yeah, that's a good point about the fuel figures and winter driving; writer maybe didn't account for it in that context. Hmmm.

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Here are a few more that have come up recently:

2017 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid Review

I'm not sure I agree with this guys take on fuel economy, he is making a generalization about total consumption when he was testing in very cold conditions. He also misses that you can get a sunroof.
based on the above review:
as he mentioned "cold weather conspired to reduce that to less than 550 km". and
Fuel economy, observed (l/100km): 7.8

based on above fact you should get 820 km / full tank (with 64 liter tank). + 50+ km on electric range. so if you are getting 550km / tank then you might left your van left running for few hours!
 

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Things are heating up...the Wall Street Journal has written a glowing review of our beloved baby! I could only read the full article by searching for it on Facebook:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.facebook.com/wsj/posts/10155679521008128&ved=0ahUKEwia-rSX0_DSAhUPxWMKHTpbB1IQFghaMA0&usg=AFQjCNF0P_XXCG7Ar5I27m-4mF2wMG5PrQ&sig2=SBy7tTgTF5e65-0TgezmyQ
 

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Fairly negative review. He missed that if you do leave the car in Drive and get out without shutting it off it doesn't run away, it applies the brakes. I'm assuming it has that same safety feature as the gas version.
 

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I was watching the NCAA basketball tourney and I saw an PacHy commercial! So it must be eminent.
 
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Interesting...a road trip review. I completely disagree about the plug in aspect being a novelty that will wear off. I'm not planning on using any gas for our daily commute and errands.

Read Car Review | ?Family Vacation? test of Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid minivan | Autofile.ca
Daily commute and around town driving is where the hybrid will shine. All of the reviews that I've read have confirmed that the mileage on the highway (after battery is depleted) is not really any better than the gas-only version. So a long road trip is not where you'll see much benefit.
 
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Here's the best video review I've seen: 2017 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid First Drive Review - DETAILED in 4K UHD! (By Alex on Autos).

(Sorry, no link because I don't have enough posts, but searching YouTube for the keywords above will get it.)

* Most aerodynamic minivan
* Largest minivan in U.S.
* Quietest minivan in U.S. (70 dB at 50 MPH), substantially quieter than Town & Country.
* He shows projector beam headlamps. Review is 4 months old. Did this get changed?
* Good comparisons to other hybrids, and other 7-passenger hybrids (Honda MDX, Toyota Highlander, Volvo XC90)
* Interesting point: can't keep a child seat latched into place on the second row seats, and get past them to the third row. You can do this in the gas-only Pacifica.
* Headroom measurement in back. No sunroof gives you one more inch of headroom.
* Useful comparison of costs between Sienna, Odyssey, and Pacifica Hybrid.
 

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I love electric cars. I have a Tesla S that I drive most days a week. I do love the look of the Hybrid Pacifica, but I don't have one. Overall I'm in love with electric cars!
 

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Sounds about right. Highway speeds are more inefficient due to higher drag. However, highway driving is usually still more efficient overall since you're not stopping as much. Since hybrids are able to recapture a lot of the energy expended in stop-and-go driving, the efficiency gains of driving at lower speeds start to win out.

I'd expect the hybrid to be slightly better than the conventional version in highway driving due to the Atkinson Cycle engine, but that probably doesn't make a huge difference—and the vehicle is ~600 pounds heavier.

Based on the numbers in this article, this vehicle will be more efficient than my 2009 Honda Civic. That's astounding.
 
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