2018 Pacifica Touring L+
The PacHy is nice, but don't forget that you lose the Sto 'n Go feature because of the large battery underneath. That was a show stopper for us.
Here is a new car for your quoted price of 35K. It's Touring L plus, got most of the stuff you wanted and its brand new 2019 model. You might have to ship it to your home or travel to Ohio to get it.That's a great summary, yes, I would like a little more function and features. We have toyed with getting a minivan for the past decade, since my daughter was born, and opted for the 3rd row SUV instead. The Pacifica is one of the first minivans that I could imagine driving based on the interior and exterior. I am in Atlanta so rather large City with lots of dealers to choose from. I keep seeing limited models show up, mostly from rental use, in the 16 to 20k mile range for between $33k to $35k. If anyone has experience with purchasing a previous rental, that would be great, advice, good or bad. Looking for red, black interior, limited edition for the sunroof, DVD and nicer wheels. How does a new car compared to this?
I have never had a car that I needed to trickle charge the battery. Ever, including the Pacifica. And it gets driven on lots of short trips.Do I need to trickle charge my van every once in awhile? Maybe, maybe not, but you don't hear me complaining about dead batteries or other related issues either. Nor is it a burden. It may be tied to usage - if you run your vehicle on many short trips, that will wear down ANY battery as the car isn't running long enough to recharge the battery.
I would trade it in if I wouldn't take a total bath on it.@SWPacLim - sounds like you're pretty sour on the van. would you be happier trading it in if it isn't for you? Though as we're talking honda just had a significant recall on their odyssey where the doors may open unexpectedly when driving (https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2018/honda-odyssey-power-sliding-door-problems-recall.shtml). Does that make their van "crappy" in your words? I would say "no", but to each their own opinion.
You're still making excuses. The Pacifica is not a "highly complex" vehicle. Its a Chrysler minivan. Its not an Aston Martin. There is nothing in it that Chrysler hasn't been making for years. Infotainment is the same as my 2014 Jeep, as is the rear seat entertainment system. Carmakers have been making these features for 20 years. This is not "cutting edge".To be clear, I wasn't blaming anyone, just trying to keep things in perspective - vehicles are highly complex (more things=more things to break), don't forget to maintain them and realize your situation if you buy a new model year (or two) as the bugs are still being worked-out. As per the example above with honda, all manufacturers these days are rushing to bring their newest to market and are ending up with recalls as a result. Subaru is one of the more conservative/consistently safe & reliable brands IMO and their new Ascent was recalled very early due to missing welds; I think this is the new norm driven by consumerism and it needs to be recognized (not suggesting it's "right nor OK"). Like you I feel if you pay for something you want it to work, but that gets strained in the current world.
Honda, Toyota, you could get it on my Lexus, Mercedes, BMW, GM vehicles...Which manufacturer has linked and embedded rear entertainment? I don't see it in the odyssey nor the brand new subaru ascent (their new 3-row) - subaru gives you ipads. Uconnect theater may not be perfect, but it's the most feature-rich out there unless someone can cite something better.
I would counter that with, its a family vehicle and Chrysler should anticipate children would be using the headphones and make them more robust. Like I said, the aftermarket headphones are more robust.The headphones do seem like they have a flimsy battery cover, but there's a whole thread on that. my 2c is that some kids are more rough with things than others and mine haven't broken yet though I do recognize their fragility. The third party does seem to be replacing them if they break so it's not like they're refusing to help. Sure the design could have been better - there's also a headphone jack if there's an "AV emergency" and kids need to watch a movie. One would hope the third party and chrysler learned the lesson to make their battery door more robust.
I was a big driver of the anti-Pacifica sentiment in this thread. I will say that we ditched that 2017 Pacifica and replaced it with a 2020 Pacifica against my better judgement. We've had the 2020 for 6 months and so far is it much better than the 2017 was. No issues so far, even rides and drives better.I have a same dilemma here.. I have a very nice, reliable, 2017 Camry, thats only 30k miles driven. I have been eyeing the Pacifica, ever since 2017 and now that i have a sweet deal on a 2020 Pacifica Hybrid Touring, thinking of what to do with my sedan. Got two kids and the sedan does feel pretty full with the family inside. I really dont need two cars, right now, and my wife has strong feelings about letting go, of a reliable toyota over this!