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can't seem to find this but has anyone with experience with 16a 240v level2 chargers? It seems the current one we have is very popular on Amazon but doesn't give the advertised charge time of 2hrs. What are peoples charge times on level 2? Mine is about 4hrs with this setup and I'm wondering what other people are getting.
Also, whats the amp rating on the Mopar level2 charger? maybe thats my problem..
 

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can't seem to find this but has anyone with experience with 16a 240v level2 chargers? It seems the current one we have is very popular on Amazon but doesn't give the advertised charge time of 2hrs. What are peoples charge times on level 2? Mine is about 4hrs with this setup and I'm wondering what other people are getting.
Also, whats the amp rating on the Mopar level2 charger? maybe thats my problem..

typical lv2 charger is 240V-32A.
You have 16A, so basically getting half of power(which means double time) than typical 32A charger. still lv2 tho.


4hrs looks pretty accurate for that charger.




FYI, the charger comes with the car is 12A with 120V and 240V.
If you connect it to 240V circuit, it is 240V-12A, and takes about 5hrs 20mins.
 

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Not much point in buying a 16A charger versus using the one supplied with the van on 240v using an adapter for the 115v plug to 240V. You would only gain (12 divided by 16) a small 25% time improvement reduction.
 

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Level 2 charging with [email protected] (2,496W) I see shy of 6hrs from 0-100%
That's about the same as commercial in the US. Residential here is 240V, so it's a little faster.

That sounds about right for 16A. I have a 20A and it takes 3 hours and a 30A that takes 2 hours.

OP, have you purchased the 16A already? If not, get a higher Amp one if your house can handle it.
 

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That's about the same as commercial in the US. Residential here is 240V, so it's a little faster.

That sounds about right for 16A. I have a 20A and it takes 3 hours and a 30A that takes 2 hours.

OP, have you purchased the 16A already? If not, get a higher Amp one if your house can handle it.
Thanks for all the responses its amazing how many different types of charging options people are using. I actually have purchased but I can return or exchange it for a 32amp one which should put me in the 2hr range. Its gonna be a matter of swapping out the circuit breaker for 40amp and redoing the wiring to the receptacle but that will be worth if i think since I've already gone thru all this : )
 

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@CANADAHYBRIDGUY -- interesting comparison...

I have a JuicePro 32 and I notice that it does not feed all 32 amps to the car, in fact it maxes out at about 6.6-6.8 KW, which makes it about 28 amps at 240 volts. So it seems like the car is throttling down the JuicePro back to 28 amps, but the Juicer 40 is able to push more juice to the car so it charges faster?

Also I noticed that the last 10 minutes of charging, the JuicePro will push much less juice, it is probably just topping it off...?
 

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It is actually the car pulling less current, not the Juicebox pushing less. The car side always negotiates the terms. My Volt does the same thing during the last 10 minutes. Partially to protect the battery when approaching "full" charge, even if that is not physically full capacity. Also likely switching from a constant current charge to constant voltage, balancing all the cells at completion.
 

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16A = 4hrs of charging time
40A = 2 hours of charging time
 

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I have a ChargePoint 32 and takes approx 2 hrs and 20 min to charge from 0. My juicebox pro 40 charges in 2 hrs and 5 min .
This is hard to explain. My OpenEVSE indicates that the van is charging at 28.7A, which is more or less matches observations of @pacificalifornia. The charging takes 2 hours or a little bit more Maybe your Chargepoint is set to a lower current?
 

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This is hard to explain. My OpenEVSE indicates that the van is charging at 28.7A, which is more or less matches observations of @pacificalifornia. The charging takes 2 hours or a little bit more Maybe your Chargepoint is set to a lower current?
I read a brochure stating the charge rate was 6.8kW - i remember thinking it odd they didn't use the standard 30A maximum of 7.2kW.

But tbh, most public stations i’ve encountered only run at 5.8kW or lower anyway.
 

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I read a brochure stating the charge rate was 6.8kW - i remember thinking it odd they didn't use the standard 30A maximum of 7.2kW.

But tbh, most public stations i’ve encountered only run at 5.8kW or lower anyway.
I have also found most public stations charge a little slower than at home in my garage. I assume it’s because they’re on 208v instead of 240v.
 

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Currently, we only charge on Level 1 at home but this week I went to a nearby public station for kicks. I had about 70% battery when I got to the station and this was the display after a little while? Does this seem correct?
 

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I read a brochure stating the charge rate was 6.8kW - i remember thinking it odd they didn't use the standard 30A maximum of 7.2kW.

But tbh, most public stations i’ve encountered only run at 5.8kW or lower anyway.
Yes, but it doesn't explain why theChargePoint 32 is slower than JuiceBox 40.Unless Chargepoint took a clue from BMW, where the model numbers don't correspond to the engine displacements anymore :)
 

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Currently, we only charge on Level 1 at home but this week I went to a nearby public station for kicks. I had about 70% battery when I got to the station and this was the display after a little while? Does this seem correct?
Looks plausible. The L2 charging speed slows when the battery is almost full, so this time can't be extrapolated to 0-100%.
 

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I just took a screenshot from chargepoint app. It was 5.6 - 5.7 kW rate, and took about 2 hrs 10 min from 2% to full.
At this location, 100% charge comes at about 1/3 cost of my Level 1 overnight charge to 75% at home - perfect for my 26-30 miles each way commute.
Went from $10 for gas per day to $2 in PacHy.
 

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Slightly off-topic, as it is about Level 1 - At home I use Zettaguard S31 socket (rated at 15A, $6.95 at Amazon) which can turn EVSE on/off and measure kWh over wifi.
I know Chrysler says don's use extension cords. But I bought it new, and plugged into new wall outlet mounted in IP6x enclosure outside, I don't see any warming in the mornings - it feels cooler than EVSE cord itself. However, as may be considered a violation of Chrysler's requirements - "don't do it at home"
Per the app, full charge on weekend shows 15.6 kWh consumed, but it only transpires into 12.5 or so in the battery.
However, I don't know how elaborate its measurement circuit is - does it use both current and voltage, or current alone.
It may mean that real power consumption may be slightly different from one shown on the app - not too far.
 

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