[kilimats]

I see most are raving about the lifetime warranty but unless it is transferable to the next owner i see very little value in it. In 5 year time autonomous driving will be a must and 200 miles range mini van will be the norm, i can tell you right now that all of you tech savy buyer will dream about it and want to upgrade.

Some of you might not think autonomous will be here that soon, for those doubters, the TED video linked below below should open your mind on whats to come. Elon estimate his fleet of cars will let you sleep in the car by end of 2018 and shortly after let you rent your car fully autonomously while you work or sleep in your home thus creating a passing income... https://www.ted.com/talks/elon_musk_the_future_we_re_building_and_boring#t-1549680

So is lifetime transferable? if not my advise is to stay out unless you want to be stuck with 30miles erange for 10+ years

 

[csnyder]

Lifetime warranties are only transferrable in certain states.

I'm bullish on autonomous vehicles, but I do think we're still a ways out from fully autonomous vehicles being in production. There's an adage in software development (probably elsewhere as well) that the last 20% of the work takes 80% of the effort. After all of the "happy paths" have been implemented, the edge cases still represent a mountain of work. I think we're probably less than halfway through having all of the edge cases figured out. That being said, I do think that autonomous vehicles are going to radically alter society in ways that we haven't even begun to imagine, and I'm hopeful that our Pacifica will be our last non-autonomous, non-fully-EV purchase.

 

[tomsaffell]

Whether or not fully antonymous vehicles arrive in 2018 or 2028, I share your sentiment that the transferability of the 8 year warranty is an advantage vs the lifetime (which I understand not to be transferable) and that's worthy of consideration.

Even if we don't have fully autonymous minivans in 2022 (5 years), chances are that the 2022 model year minivans will be significant better (range, partially autonymous, connectivity, etc) and those who want to upgrade and who have bought an 8-year warranty will be able to sell their 5-year old Pacifica with the statement "Comes with 3 years of manufacturer bumper-to-bumper warranty, transferable to the new owner", and that will make the van more attractive to a good chunk of used-car buyers.

I'm normally a 'buy it and drive it into the ground' kinda guy (current car is 2001 Outback), but given the current pace of change in car technology, I have a hard time believing I won't be tempted to buy a 2022 model once I see what it can do...

 

[Tiz]

I see most are raving about the lifetime warranty but unless it is transferable to the next owner i see very little value in it. In 5 year time autonomous driving will be a must and 200 miles range mini van will be the norm, i can tell you right now that all of you tech savy buyer will dream about it and want to upgrade.

Some of you might not think autonomous will be here that soon, for those doubters, the TED video linked below below should open your mind on whats to come. Elon estimate his fleet of cars will let you sleep in the car by end of 2018 and shortly after let you rent your car fully autonomously while you work or sleep in your home thus creating a passing income... https://www.ted.com/talks/elon_musk_the_future_we_re_building_and_boring#t-1549680

So is lifetime transferable? if not my advise is to stay out unless you want to be stuck with 30miles erange for 10+ years

I believe the legal hurdles will be the toughest part to overcome in a self-driving vehicle more so than the technology. If the autonomous vehicle is involved in an accident, which is inevitable, who's at fault? Do you blame the cars owner who was in the vehicle at the time for not exercising proper oversight of the vehicles systems, do you blame software developer or all the individuals involved in writing the software, or the company who manufactured the vehicle or the company who outfitted the vehicle with the hardware to make it autonomous, or the weather or what. I can see the greedy lawyers having a field day with it and the parties involved point fingers at one another saying it's not their fault, kind of like the computer industry where the hardware manufacture blames the software and vise versa when you have a problem. I am not saying that self driving cars will never happen only that our screwed up legal system will be what causes the biggest delay.

 

[adavidw]

Just wanted to check on this since we're nearing the five year mark. Any indication of when I can get that 200 mile range autonomous van?