Ok well thanks for being the first penguin off the cliff! I guess I’ll wait for this one to get ironed out!
What is your definition of “beta test disaster”?Too late for current owners
But
Do we have percentages on these problems?
Reading the forum it seems as though 100% of pac hybrids are beta test disasters.
Is it really 1%? 10%? 50%
I find that odd. I was just looking at the remedy instructions for the Z11 recall and it states:The funny thing is he knew what my next concern with replacing the BPCH was before I even asked. He came right out and said there is NO possible way to remove all the air from the system when replacing the BPCH and I might be coming back or getting towed back due to air in the system. He said Chrysler will not allow them to pull a vacuum on the system to remove all the air. He said he thinks pulling a vacuum could collapse the HV battery coolant chamber or pull on things inside the HV battery pack and ruin the HV battery. He said he has spent hours on these force-flushing coolant through them and some of them still come back with air issues.
This exact thing happened after I got the P0E15 problem "fixed"The funny thing is he knew what my next concern with replacing the BPCH was before I even asked. He came right out and said there is NO possible way to remove all the air from the system when replacing the BPCH and I might be coming back or getting towed back due to air in the system. He said Chrysler will not allow them to pull a vacuum on the system to remove all the air. He said he thinks pulling a vacuum could collapse the HV battery coolant chamber or pull on things inside the HV battery pack and ruin the HV battery. He said he has spent hours on these force-flushing coolant through them and some of them still come back with air issues.
There are three different cooling systems not all of them can be vacuumed. This is stating to pressurize bottle 1, not vacuum. Vacuuming a coolant system is the fastest and easiest way to fill them without air. Pressurizing a system and then jolting it by releasing the pressure does not remove all the air. This system has so many valves, crossovers, exchangers, and electric pumps is one reason I will not own one of these past the warranty.I find that odd. I was just looking at the remedy instructions for the Z11 recall and it states:
- Attach the SVT275 Cooling Pressure Tester (2), available from Mopar® Service Equipment, or an equivalent to the pressurized coolant bottle (1).
- Operate tester pump to apply 100 kPa (15 psig) pressure to system.
Well the tech said you can’t vacuum fill the battery system. That’s obviously wrong based on Chrysler’s own document. That kit is a vacuum system. And only if you don’t have it should you use the pressurize procedure.There are three different cooling systems not all of them can be vacuumed. This is stating to pressurize bottle 1, not vacuum. Vacuuming a coolant system is the fastest and easiest way to fill them without air. Pressurizing a system and then jolting it by releasing the pressure does not remove all the air. This system has so many valves, crossovers, exchangers, and electric pumps is one reason I will not own one of these past the warranty.
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I think he's implying/thinking that they released the 03A recall update without the prior Z76 update software package included in it.What makes you tie the recurrence of the ECH issue with the 03A recall?
You're assuming they have a software division. It's probably subcontracted out to people that don't care.P0E15 back after recall 03A: The pure contentious incompetence of Chrysler's software division is astounding!
@ChryslerCares It is time for the software division for all vehicle modules, including the Uconnect system with the Pacifica hybrids to be fired and replaced! How MANY more times will they get it wrong at this point? Reusing old code for the Recall 03A bringing back the BPCH bug? It is apparent the Chrysler software developers for this vehicle are lazy or simply do not care and take pride in their work! Who has to pay for the incompetence with their time? The people like me that have bought one of these. Are the owners that are out of warranty going to be screwed when this happens to them? Is this by design in an attempt to recover losses? Cha-Ching! $$$$
Three days of no issues after recall 03A and the first time the temp is below 40F, guess what? That's right, the problem with the BPCH software bug was put right back into the system. As opposed to last winter which was very cold because of this, my vehicle has been great this winter. Nice and toasty, until it got cold outside after the Recall 03A. Had no heat again.
Being this is now the third time this has happened my BPCH firmware is now perma-locked and is requiring a replacement on a PERFECTLY good BPCH that has had 0 issues since the last software update from TSB 08-052-22. Stellantis/Chrysler better get ready to be replacing over 67,000 BPCH very soon.
My two-year-old Pinnacle I have driven only when needed waiting for the loss of power issue to get ironed out, will still not be driven much due to the BPCH bug returning from the most recent recall software update. What is the point to have the BPCH replaced if it is going to be perma-locked every time the software bug throws the code more than 3 times? This is beyond stupid and unacceptable. P0E15 software bug should NOT be a thing at this point!
Just as rental companies will charge for loss of use due to damage or negligence I think it is time every owner of a Pacifica hybrid is compensated for the loss of use going forward due to negligence of bad software. I can guarantee you there will be no more software issues with them if this happens.
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@ThisSuckersElectricalI think he's implying/thinking that they released the 03A recall update without the prior Z76 update software package included in it.
Hello,P0E15 back after recall 03A: The pure contentious incompetence of Chrysler's software division is astounding!
@ChryslerCares It is time for the software division for all vehicle modules, including the Uconnect system with the Pacifica hybrids to be fired and replaced! How MANY more times will they get it wrong at this point? Reusing old code for the Recall 03A bringing back the BPCH bug? It is apparent the Chrysler software developers for this vehicle are lazy or simply do not care and take pride in their work! Who has to pay for the incompetence with their time? The people like me that have bought one of these. Are the owners that are out of warranty going to be screwed when this happens to them? Is this by design in an attempt to recover losses? Cha-Ching! $$$$
Three days of no issues after recall 03A and the first time the temp is below 40F, guess what? That's right, the problem with the BPCH software bug was put right back into the system. As opposed to last winter which was very cold because of this, my vehicle has been great this winter. Nice and toasty, until it got cold outside after the Recall 03A. Had no heat again.
Being this is now the third time this has happened my BPCH firmware is now perma-locked and is requiring a replacement on a PERFECTLY good BPCH that has had 0 issues since the last software update from TSB 08-052-22. Stellantis/Chrysler better get ready to be replacing over 67,000 BPCH very soon.
My two-year-old Pinnacle I have driven only when needed waiting for the loss of power issue to get ironed out, will still not be driven much due to the BPCH bug returning from the most recent recall software update. What is the point to have the BPCH replaced if it is going to be perma-locked every time the software bug throws the code more than 3 times? This is beyond stupid and unacceptable. P0E15 software bug should NOT be a thing at this point!
Just as rental companies will charge for loss of use due to damage or negligence I think it is time every owner of a Pacifica hybrid is compensated for the loss of use going forward due to negligence of bad software. I can guarantee you there will be no more software issues with them if this happens.
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