No comments on the Carnival? It's the only other minivan I'd consider. I hate the look inside/out of everything else. At least Kia is (once again) shaking things up with good appearance and materials. But, the lack of a PHEV option pretty much sealed the deal for us. The Pinnacle PacHy is more premium than the Carnival, but I do prefer the exterior looks of the Carnival, along with its vastly superior tech/driver assistance features.I won't disagree.
Two weekends ago my wife (and I) went to the automall to drive all four minivans. Our van history was Toyota Previa (loved it) and a 2002 and a 2007 Odyssey. Also we love Toyota.
Surprisingly enough, the Sienna was last on her list. It just didn't feel right. The Honda felt EXACTLY like our two previous Hondas, which is not a bad thing...but I refuse to buy another Honda (long story) if I can help it. Plus, for the price it seemed kinda sparse (we looked at the Elite, $44K plus tax/title/etc). The Kia was interesting.
But I hated the idea of another gas hog. She drove the PacHy last, and loved it. I loved it because it's a hybrid. Problem solved. (Except for availability. Last weekend we went 2 hours to get the one she wanted. Loved the dealership experience--no muss no fuss, total transparency, VERY quick, and did us right by the numbers.)
One thing that caught my eye years ago was that the PacHy, due to no requirement for stow and go second row, has better padded second row seats. My wife hates her father's T&C SNG seats, because the padding is too thin. And we don't mind removing the second row seats every blue moon or so, should we need to. We've been doing that for 20 years. It's simply not an issue.
Now I'm off to manage my income to make more than enough to take the entire $7500 tax credit.
It was a very, very nice piece from what we could tell. But we didn't spend a bunch of time on it, and we never went back to it after we found the Chrysler. It seemed that the Pacifica was equivalent to the Kia overall, but also had the advantage of a hybrid powertrain.No comments on the Carnival?
That is a such cool feature I was bummed it was only available in the Prestige. SX had a pretty disappointing analog dash with a tiny screen, imho.The Carnival has a all digital dash and has feature the turns on cameras with the blinkers. I have to admit that caught my eye. Just not enough for me to get rid of Stow-N-Go.
Glad I’m not the only one that thinks this is a goofy feature. A $5 set of 2” spot mirrors fixes the blind spot issue on my cars. And I don’t have to take my eyes off my mirrors to make a lane change. Doesn’t make sense to check the mirror then check the Instrument cluster to make sure the lane is clear, meanwhile taking eyes off the road. Seems like a gimmick to me. But I guess it will get folks to use a blinker, so there is that. Reminds me of my blind spot monitors on my Audi, it would blink if I had the blinker on and there was something in the blind spot, but it was so conservative that I had it blinking at me a lot when I was making a change, but due to the spots, I could see I was clear to make my change. At least you could turn off the beeping on it.
Setting the mirrors correctly means no blind spots, period. No additional hardware needed.A $5 set of 2” spot mirrors fixes the blind spot issue on my cars.