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Estimated to receive an approximate 80mpg on the city cycle while working with electrical power.

The Pacifica PHEV will be utilizing a transmission that includes two electric motors along with a gasoline V6 for extra power and range.

Scheduled for the secon half of 2016 as a spokesman has given out and it is apparently still on track.
 

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That should be 80 mpge. That is the equivalent efficiency when running on the battery. Once the battery is exhausted (after ~30 miles), it will revert to pure gasoline power, which is the typical 18/28 city/highway mpg.
 

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This is the same hybrid version that Chrysler's been hyping and people have been talking about for months. What am I missing?
 

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Yeah, the OP appears to be late to the party, and with out-dated info. The Pacifica Hybrid is now confirmed to be delayed until early 2017 as well.
 

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That should be 80 mpge. That is the equivalent efficiency when running on the battery. Once the battery is exhausted (after ~30 miles), it will revert to pure gasoline power, which is the typical 18/28 city/highway mpg.
Wait, am I reading that right in that this isn't going to be a standard hybrid engine that uses electric on the lower speeds and kicks over to gas on higher like every other hybrid engine out there because that is news to me.
 

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Wait, am I reading that right in that this isn't going to be a standard hybrid engine that uses electric on the lower speeds and kicks over to gas on higher like every other hybrid engine out there because that is news to me.
Plug-in Hybrids can work a lot more like an electric vehicle than conventional hybrids. Most (if not all) plug-ins can go a certain distance on pure electric power, regardless of speed. The Pacifica Hybrid is a plug-in, so if the batteries are fully charged, it will be able to go up to 30 miles without using the gas engine at all. I'd be willing to bet the real world number will be less than 30 miles though, especially if you're using heat or A/C. Still, if your commute is relatively short and you plug it in every night, it's quite possible to go weeks without using any gas.
 

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Plug-in Hybrids can work a lot more like an electric vehicle than conventional hybrids. Most (if not all) plug-ins can go a certain distance on pure electric power, regardless of speed. The Pacifica Hybrid is a plug-in, so if the batteries are fully charged, it will be able to go up to 30 miles without using the gas engine at all. I'd be willing to bet the real world number will be less than 30 miles though, especially if you're using heat or A/C. Still, if your commute is relatively short and you plug it in every night, it's quite possible to go weeks without using any gas.
This is certainly true of the Chevy Volt, which stays on electric mode until the battery is exhausted, and only then switches to gasoline. It's easy to go months without burning any gas when you've got a range of 50-70 miles.

What I've heard elsewhere on this forum, however, is that the Pacifica's gas engine will kick in if the vehicle requires more power, though I'm not sure what that is defined as.
 

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This is certainly true of the Chevy Volt, which stays on electric mode until the battery is exhausted, and only then switches to gasoline.
The Chevy Volt is a different animal. It's not just a hybrid, it's referred to as a "range extender". This means that the drive train ALWAYS runs on electric power. When the batteries are depleted, the gas engine fires up as a generator. It generates just enough power to run the electric motors and keep the car going. Unfortunately, it doesn't generate enough power to also charge the batteries in that mode. For all intents and purposes, the Volt really is an electric vehicle which just happens to have a generator on board.
 

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Thanks for that clarification. Those details are easily confused. I thought the Pacifica was going to be using a similar paradigm to the range extender. Just goes to show how effective marketing can be at muddying the water.
 

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Yeah, it's easy to get confused with all the hybrids, plug-in hybrids, range extenders, and pure electric vehicles out there. And each manufacturer tends to do it a bit differently.
 

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So then is the electric completely independent or will it recharge as you drive on gas via the motor? I live in a mountain region where my regular drive to the city is 45 miles up mountain which would bring the electric engine down quick. If it's a one or the other thing that has to be plugged in every time I use it, the hybrid isn't for me.
 

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So then is the electric completely independent or will it recharge as you drive on gas via the motor? I live in a mountain region where my regular drive to the city is 45 miles up mountain which would bring the electric engine down quick. If it's a one or the other thing that has to be plugged in every time I use it, the hybrid isn't for me.
The gas engine will not recharge the batteries, but there will be a little bit of battery charge generated when slowing down with regenerative braking. You would definitely want to plug it in whenever possible to gain the most efficiency. I suspect that the mpg without plugging it in will only be slightly better than the non-hybrid Pacifica.
 

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The gas engine will not recharge the batteries, but there will be a little bit of battery charge generated when slowing down with regenerative braking. You would definitely want to plug it in whenever possible to gain the most efficiency. I suspect that the mpg without plugging it in will only be slightly better than the non-hybrid Pacifica.
Ouch, well I guess that does it for me. Will have to start looking elsewhere. Seems like it would be great for cities and large towns but rurally not so much. Thanks for the intel
 

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Ouch, well I guess that does it for me. Will have to start looking elsewhere. Seems like it would be great for cities and large towns but rurally not so much. Thanks for the intel
Don't be so sure. You probably wouldn't want the gas engine to recharge the battery, while at the same time powering the car, as that is terribly inefficient. Better to charge the battery from a wall outlet while parked, and get whatever braking/hill regeneration that can be siphoned while driving.
 

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I imagine that the Pacifica will have something like the Volt's "Hold" mode which will allow you to save the battery for use in the city, if that's what you want to do.


It may also have a mode than allows you to recharge the battery fully or partially using the engine. This is less efficient than simply letting it run as a hybrid, but I understand that some people want this capability.
 
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