[Matt-In-AZ]

Has anyone installed Pirelli Scorpion All Season Plus 3 tires on their Pacifica, hybrid or otherwise?

The Yokohama tires that it came with have just under 11,000 miles on them and their indifferent handling has become treacherous.

The OEM Yokahama tires have had numb handling since day one. But as the tread has worn in, they have begun to follow lines and cracks in the road. There's a lot of construction in this area, and the grooves in pavement frequently lead into adjacent lanes. The tires follow them, and it has become a problem correcting, and then correcting again. They are also so noisy that we can no longer carry on a conversation. Hence my question.

I used to use Michelin tires exclusively. But the last two sets that I owned had poor UV resistance, especially compared to some Pirelli tires I have known. Thanks.

 

[DoninDel]

My experience (admittedly years ago) with Pirelli tires was that they lived exciting, but brief lives. They rode well, handled well, but wore rapidly. I have never had a bad Michelin experience, but I suggest reading reviews at Tire Rack of tires you are considering for a more comprehensive opinion.

 

[Cool Minivan..... Nobody]

I am extremely happy with the Toyo Celsius CUV tires I have on my 2019. They have around 35k miles on them, still have around 7-8/32 tread, handle wonderfully, and handle rain/snow with ease.

I had intended to get different tires when they wore out, but I have been extremely happy with them, so it will be getting another set when these are done.

 

[PacificaMinivanFan]

There are lots of positive reports for Michelin CrossClimate and Michelin Defender. We have Defenders on our '18 and love them here in Minnesota. BTW, the Michelin Premiers than came with our '21 Pacifica AWD have just under 13k miles and seems to be doing well. I've been running them at 40 psi per a suggestion on TireRack to try and extend their tread wear. Got rid of the Premiers that came with the '18 Touring L Plus at 29k miles, and might need to do the same with the ones on the '21.

 

[Cool Minivan..... Nobody]

I used to run exclusively Michelin and Continental for years. I've since noticed they start losing traction and getting noisy as they wear, usually starting around 7/32 tread, to the point that I no longer trust them for winter use once they're worn that far.

This discovery has led me to try different tires. Now my go tos are the General Altimax RT43/45 that I have on my Grand Caravan and the Toyos I mentioned above. Quite frankly, after finding these, I'll never pay Michelin or Continental money again, they're not what they used to be anymore.

 

[Matt-In-AZ]

A lot of interesting replies, which I appreciate. Here in the desert southwest, I have found that my tire needs are much different than they were in other places.

• We don't drive as many miles per year as we used to, so a long wear guarantee is no no consequence to us.
• The heat and appalling sunshine destroy tires long, long before they wear out. The sidewalls on our last set of Michelin tires had turned to suede. They were on our 2001 PT Cruiser, and I replaced them with BF Goodrich Advantage tires from Costco. I like them, except for the B Traction rating. (The A Temperature rating is good, though.)
• Traffic here is beyond horrible. A certain percentage of cars are driven by people with no driving licenses, no insurance and who may be recently informally arrived from elsewhere.
• Snow is not an issue.
• The above factors make tires with astounding handling characteristics, but short tread wear expectancy quite attractive to us.
• An additional cost of $60 per tire to achieve the goals of collision avoidance, UV resistance and heat resistance is trivial when compared to the alternatives. That's something we learned over decades.

So, oddly, a set of tires with A traction, AA temperature, and 25,000 mile tread wear expectancy might be ideal. Strange, I know.

 

[VelvetRedAWD]

Ask TireRack about your specific needs.

 

[keith]

I'm considering these tires too. They are top rated for our van. Does anyone actually have them on their van and could actually give us a review.

 

[coffeejunkie]

I replaced the stock tires on our PacHy early with these and it was a night a day difference in handling quality. We went with the 107 load rating (actually a light truck tire) based on recommendations from a friend that said they perform much better and last longer on heavy vehicles like the hybrids/EVs. I’ve driven in light snow, wet roads, mild icy conditions and never lost traction. Road noise was the same and not an issue. These were my first Pirellis and after 12 mo and ~10k mi I’m super happy with them. If you have an AWD, Hybrid, or frequently transporting a full van you may want to consider the 107s.

 

[Wunderkind]

I installed the Pirelli Scorpion Verde AS Plus 2 tires on my Pacifica back in June of 2021. I’ve got approximately 9,000 miles on them and so far, I’m quite pleased. I’ve noticed a much smoother ride and less road noise than the Kumho tires they replaced. They also handle well in wet weather.

I actually ordered these from Amazon and had a local tire shop install them. I’ve ordered tires from them several times in the past and haven’t had any issues.

 

[VelvetRedAWD]

The OEM Yokahama tires have had numb handling since day one. But as the tread has worn in, they have begun to follow lines and cracks in the road. There's a lot of construction in this area, and the grooves in pavement frequently lead into adjacent lanes. The tires follow them, and it has become a problem correcting, and then correcting again. They are also so noisy that we can no longer carry on a conversation. Hence my question.

Sounds more like an alignment problem.
Do you rotate your tires every 5K?

I had those tires on my Grand Caravan. Got 45k miles, no issues.

 

[Matt-In-AZ]

Sounds more like an alignment problem.
Do you rotate your tires every 5K?

I had those tires on my Grand Caravan. Got 45k miles, no issues.

The tires get rotated at every oil change. There is no evidence of uneven tire wear. On straight flat road without odd cracking or goofy grooving, the minivan tracks straight ahead without pulling either way. But the road has to be smooth without cracking or grooves.

I have had "follow the cracks and grooves" before, with other tires. And it was a long time ago with old technology or garbage tires. The first instance was with a set of OEM Goodyear Custom Polyglas bias-belted tires. I cured that, in 1973, with a set of Michelin tires. I also had "follow the groove" behavior, not as bad, with a set of Continental tires that came OEM on a 2014 Subaru.

I don't think it's alignment, unless the independent rear suspension is doing something weird.

 

[rlee777]

I have the AS Plus 3 on my Honda Accord Hybrid and love those tires -- solid handling, very quiet and cushioned ride. The advantage of the Plus 3 vs the Plus II is tire life -- the Plus 2 did not make it past 45K.

Also interested in the CUV/SUV version for our 2018 Pacifica -- the Scorpion A/S Plus 3. The Defenders on our Pacifica are OK, but could use an improvement with handling and road noise. These Michelins do LAST however (60K and still going) so I will wait a little longer before replacing. Interested to hear more real life experiences with the Pirelli Scorpion Plus 3....

 

[Matt-In-AZ]

I am the OP in this thread. We installed the set of Scorpion A/S Plus 3 tires on our Pacifica L last night, at our local Discount Tire. Since then, we had put two point five (1.5) entire miles on them. But in those 2.5 miles, we can already tell that there's a difference. Our neighborhood has gutters that cross residential streets at intersections. With the OEM Yokohama tires, the van acted like a startled kitten when crossing them at speeds of 15 to 25 mph. The van no longer does that, now behaving in a calm manner. On the arterial street driving home, the van did not follow grooved pavement and cracks in the road and were quiet. For what it's worth, they have a manufacturing date of the 33rd week of 2022.

2-1/2 miles is not by any means a decent test. Uh-uh, no way, nope. I'll report back once the tires are broken in and have some real miles on them.

 

[chiengoraspinner]

The new tires have 90 miles on them and are a big improvement.