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Rhythmic clicking from dash when vehicle off

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We have been having a rhythmic clicking sound that almost sounds like a small washing machine that occurs when we turn the van off. It sounds like it is coming from the dash. The sound shuts off after about two minutes and only occurs when the vehicle is off. If you open a door, the sound starts up again. Otherwise, the vehicle has been running fine. Has anyone else experienced this? 2018 Hybrid 10,000 miles. All recalls and RRT’s completed with no issues found.
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I brought ours in and told them it already did this once and they replaced it but they claim it's not the actuator this time but something else and they opened a star case. They also claim they were told there were a few star cases opened for the same issue. I am starting to wonder if they just didn't want to replace it under my lifetime warranty(have 3 other things being done as well)
If anyone is curious, here is a photo of the actuator. It costs $20 and isn’t too difficult to replace.
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How are you people replacing it? I could not get any tool I have on the top screw. I tried for an hour and I'm ready to give up. Any advice would be appreciated. Especially what tools did you get to go in there on the screw.
I ended up paying a mechanic to replace it. I just could not get my hands in there. I could have tried to take out more parts such as knee air bag to start with, but it the list of pros and cons tipped toward taking it in to a mechanic. Costed $180 for labor before tax with a dealer quoting $375-$500 for labor.
I just finished replacing mine. It is a tight space to work in. However, you do not have to operate blind. I found a direct line of sight when laying on my back and looking straight up under the dash by the floor vent. It was hard getting my hand in between everything else, but once I did this it went way smoother. Problem solved.

Also, I recall seeing some ask if this could impact anything else. It can impact your small battery that operates the auto start/stop feature of the van. It can lead to a reduced battery life for the small battery, which can then in turn start impacting your main battery.
When you dropped that plastic foot air manifold off, was it just those 2 small plastic screws holding that on? I sure hope so because there is no way I’m gonna be able to get it off going through the top left.
How are you people replacing it? I could not get any tool I have on the top screw. I tried for an hour and I'm ready to give up. Any advice would be appreciated. Especially what tools did you get to go in there on the screw.
I agree. What tools are you folks using because even a small 7/32 driver ratchet is impossible to get back there. Also, how does that electrical connector come off. Simply slide or is it held in by a small detent? If there is a small plastic detent, how in the world do you do that because you need 2 hands for that without breaking it?
Another thread that has instructions

2017 Pacifica making noises from inside the dash
thanks for pointing me in the right direction...
I have the exact same problem. Wish I could upload a video here. Very annoying. I just bought the car. Today
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Mine is doing this, but not every time. And it stops as soon as the vehicle is turned on, and I think once the ignition is on. So I'm wondering if something external to the actuator causing it? It just seems like if the actuator is bad, it shouldn't ever stop doing this as long as it has power.
I just went and looked at it and confirmed that it stops when the ignition is turned on. This is very confusing to me unless something weird happens like it is given half voltage when the ignition is off and an event happens like the door is opened, and then given full voltage when the ignition is on. Otherwise, if the actuator is bad, it should continue the clicking when the ignition is on.

I checked all fuses, and they are all seated. I disconnected the battery, but only for 30 seconds or so, and it continued. I am leaving the battery disconnected for awhile to see if it helps.
I just went and looked at it and confirmed that it stops when the ignition is turned on. This is very confusing to me unless something weird happens like it is given half voltage when the ignition is off and an event happens like the door is opened, and then given full voltage when the ignition is on. Otherwise, if the actuator is bad, it should continue the clicking when the ignition is on.

I checked all fuses, and they are all seated. I disconnected the battery, but only for 30 seconds or so, and it continued. I am leaving the battery disconnected for awhile to see if it helps.
It is almost certainly the door actuator that is causing your problem. I assume the problem
Is internal and related to a feedback loop where the actual position of the door is read by a potentiometer. When the potentiometer wears out it causes the problem (apparently). No need to go to the extent of disconnecting your battery though. The actuator will stop making its noises a few minutes after the car has been shut off.
It is almost certainly the door actuator that is causing your problem. I assume the problem
Is internal and related to a feedback loop where the actual position of the door is read by a potentiometer. When the potentiometer wears out it causes the problem (apparently). No need to go to the extent of disconnecting your battery though. The actuator will stop making its noises a few minutes after the car has been shut off.
I didn't disconnect the battery to stop the noise as I know it will shut off after a few minutes, I disconnected the battery and left it disconnected for awhile to see if it would reset anything, but I just hooked it back up and the noise is still there. ;)

But my question remains - if it is the door actuator, why does it stop once the ignition is on? I might think it was a battery issue if it made the noise when the engine was off and then stopped when the engine was on, thus getting power from the alternator and no longer the battery.

By the way, I was driving around in it today for quite a few errands (9 stops) and at least once it did not happen ;)
I didn't disconnect the battery to stop the noise as I know it will shut off after a few minutes, I disconnected the battery and left it disconnected for awhile to see if it would reset anything, but I just hooked it back up and the noise is still there. ;)

But my question remains - if it is the door actuator, why does it stop once the ignition is on? I might think it was a battery issue if it made the noise when the engine was off and then stopped when the engine was on, thus getting power from the alternator and no longer the battery.

By the way, I was driving around in it today for quite a few errands (9 stops) and at least once it did not happen ;)
Ok. This is just a hunch. When you shut the car off, it automatically tries to move the actuator door to a certain position. This is the same position it tries to move to every time you shut the vehicle off. Let’s just say it’s at the midway point. After so many years the feedback potentiometer develops a bad spot in it in that same midway point area. So when you turn the car off it can not accurately position the door to that spot because of the bad potentiometer. Instead it hunts back and forth to either side of the bad spot trying to find it. It will do this for several minutes until it finally gives up and shuts itself down. Perhaps when you are driving, the door tends to want to position itself closer to one extreme or the other and since the potentiometer is good in those spots you don’t get the back and forth hunting. I am pretty sure this is an issue that is internal to the actuator and not an error created by the control system of the car. My actuator did this same exact thing when the car was about two years old. The actuator was replaced under warranty and, voila! The problem stopped immediately. Now, about two years later the same problem is happening again. I’ve already bought the new actuator but just haven’t had the opportunity to put it in yet.
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I might think it was a battery issue if it made the noise when the engine was off and then stopped when the engine was on, thus getting power from the alternator and no longer the battery.

By the way, I was driving around in it today for quite a few errands (9 stops) and at least once it did not happen ;)
A couple of things. First, the 12v battery in these cars is not charged by an alternator. There is no alternator. It is actually charged from energy that comes from the high voltage motive battery. You may already know this. Second, in my experience there are times when for whatever reason the clicking doesn’t happen. Perhaps the “scratchy” potentiometer settles on a good spot and for some reason it’s satisfied. In my case, when this has happened (now the 2nd time in 4 years) it has happened somewhat gradually. It starts off with gradual rhythmic clicking that only happens once in a great while and the progressively gets worse to the point where it happens nearly every time the van is shut off.
If it weren’t for the fact that this critter is hard to get to, I would try removing it, finding where the potentiometer is, and spraying it with some contact cleaner to see if the problem resolves at least temporarily. But the part is not very expensive and it seems to last for about two years so I just bite the bullet and change it out. It’s an annoyance albeit a fairly minor one and it’s one of just a very few problems I’ve had with the van so it’s tolerable. At least I know exactly what to do when the symptoms occur. No troubleshooting needed. And I’ve read enough about others who’ve had the exact same problem and the resolution always seems to be the replacement of the actuator.
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Ok. This is just a hunch. When you shut the car off, it automatically tries to move the actuator door to a certain position. This is the same position it tries to move to every time you shut the vehicle off. Let’s just say it’s at the midway point. After so many years the feedback potentiometer develops a bad spot in it in that same midway point area. So when you turn the car off it can not accurately position the door to that spot because of the bad potentiometer. Instead it hunts back and forth to either side of the bad spot trying to find it. It will do this for several minutes until it finally gives up and shuts itself down. Perhaps when you are driving, the door tends to want to position itself closer to one extreme or the other and since the potentiometer is good in those spots you don’t get the back and forth hunting. I am pretty sure this is an issue that is internal to the actuator and not an error created by the control system of the car. My actuator did this same exact thing when the car was about two years old. The actuator was replaced under warranty and, voila! The problem stopped immediately. Now, about two years later the same problem is happening again. I’ve already bought the new actuator but just haven’t had the opportunity to put it in yet.
This makes sense, still seems weird that they would design it to go to a middle position though.

A couple of things. First, the 12v battery in these cars is not charged by an alternator. There is no alternator. It is actually charged from energy that comes from the high voltage motive battery. You may already know this. Second, in my experience there are times when for whatever reason the clicking doesn’t happen. Perhaps the “scratchy” potentiometer settles on a good spot and for some reason it’s satisfied. In my case, when this has happened (now the 2nd time in 4 years) it has happened somewhat gradually. It starts off with gradual rhythmic clicking that only happens once in a great while and the progressively gets worse to the point where it happens nearly every time the van is shut off.
If it weren’t for the fact that this critter is hard to get to, I would try removing it, finding where the potentiometer is, and spraying it with some contact cleaner to see if the problem resolves at least temporarily. But the part is not very expensive and it seems to last for about two years so I just bite the bullet and change it out. It’s an annoyance albeit a fairly minor one and it’s one of just a very few problems I’ve had with the van so it’s tolerable. At least I know exactly what to do when the symptoms occur. No troubleshooting needed. And I’ve read enough about others who’ve had the exact same problem and the resolution always seems to be the replacement of the actuator.
I didn't realize I was in the hybrid forum - I have the regular gas Pacifica. But it is still the same issue, and I'm sure it is the actuator but I always troubleshoot easy to difficult rather than most likely to least likely. Like disconnecting the battery for an hour or 2, worth a shot as it took 10 seconds to disconnect and 10 to reconnect.

And since the actuator is only $20 and the difficulty is with removing and installing it, I agree there is no need to try to repair one unless you are trying to find the cause. I had to take the seat adjuster switch out of my '02 Trans Am, take it apart and clean it, which was really fiddly and a PIA, but I had no choice as there weren't any switches to be found at the time. ;)
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This makes sense, still seems weird that they would design it to go to a middle position though.
Well again, this is just a hunch but there must be a reason for it if the car’s control system tells the actuator to move to a certain position when the car is shut down. Perhaps it has to do with keeping the HVAC system dry and not allowing any humidity or moisture to be trapped in an area where it could sit for awhile and mildew. I really have no idea. But obviously something changes when the car is shut down. The actuator tries to move to a new position and if that’s the case there has to be a reason. Some engineer somewhere said, “hey, that actuator needs to be in a neutral position when the car is shut down” for such and such reason.
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And the really fun thing is that mine is not doing it every time. Sometimes it doesn't, and my wife and I think it might have to do with the outside temperature.
We have been having a rhythmic clicking sound that almost sounds like a small washing machine that occurs when we turn the van off. It sounds like it is coming from the dash. The sound shuts off after about two minutes and only occurs when the vehicle is off. If you open a door, the sound starts up again. Otherwise, the vehicle has been running fine. Has anyone else experienced this? 2018 Hybrid 10,000 miles. All recalls and RRT’s completed with no issues found.
I have the same issue.
Ok, so I showed my dealer this thread. They supposedly replaced actuator for $300 repair. The noise is worse now. Dealer is claiming +$1000 repair to replace HVAC recirc door. Does this seem right? It seems like a sham to me….
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