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Now that I have a Chrysler, I notice other Chryslers. I LOVE this Pacifica, my second Chrysler, previously 2005 300C. I hope to get a vintage Imperial one day.

I see previous gen Town and Country (not 15 years old) with rust at the rockers and at the leading edge of the rear wheel arch. I've seen several 5-10 year old vans with this problem and nearly 100% of gen '06 and earlier with rusty rockers, rear wheel arches, and even lift gate rust on some. Yesterday I saw a PT cruiser with rockers and rear wheel arch rust.

I never see Odys and Siennas rusted out like Chryslers. On occasion I see a 20 year old Civic from the other side of the train tracks that looks like a beat up metal trash can full of junk that is rusty (would you expect anything else?)

Fortunately, the Pacifica has an aluminum lift gate and hood (which never rusts unless wrecked) so we don't need to worry about the gate.

Hopefully FCA has done a better job with rust prevention elsewhere on the Pac. My dealer explained that there is no rust through perforation warranty that most cars have (I've never heard of a new car without a rust warranty).
Edit: From the Chrysler website: corrosion warranty, the cover says it applies to all 2017 Chrysler vehicles (gas). 5 years outer panels, 3 years sheet metal, covers rust-through
 

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I see lots of Odys with rust... you just don't live far enough north :)
 

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I see lots of Odys with rust... you just don't live far enough north :)
Be that as it may, where I do live, the Chryslers rust a lot where Honda/Toyota don't rust under the same environmental conditions. Whether north or south, the rust I see on Chryslers relative to competitors is excessive ;-).

I have seen rust on a 15 year old Odyssey but very rarely. It's routine on 10 year old Chrysler.s I saw 4 Chryco vans today on the Kroger parking lot and all had rusty rockers and wheel arches. I saw a 5th with rust at the gas pump.
 

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Are you sure about the accuracy of your information? When I go to the Chrysler site and download warranty information it gives me a corrosion warranty, the cover says it applies to all 2017 Chrysler vehicles (gas). 5 years outer panels, 3 years sheet metal, covers rust-through (holes).

Regardless, there are quite a few vehicles that eventually succumb to rust here in snowy Michigan, but it seems to be accurate that Chryslers have a higher rate than other manufacturers. Heck, I've got one of them, have some liftgate rust on my ~ 13 year old Pacifica.

I do wonder if it's more of a paint problem than anything else, because it seems to me (and this may just be a small sample size) that it's more of a problem with silver and green vehicles than other colors.

Just my opinion but I wouldn't expect ChryslerCares to comment ... they seem to focus on trying to assist with specific cases, which I'm sure is keeping them busy with hybrids at the moment.


Hopefully FCA has done a better job with rust prevention elsewere on the Pac. My dealer explained that there is no rust through perforation warranty that most cars have (I've never heard of a new car without a rust warranty). It doesn't really matter because cars never rust through within the 5 year warranty period anyway. Other warranties are for rust perforation, not rust. It does not inspire confidence when the manufacturer is not willing to offer a rust through warranty (even if it will never be used). I'd rather have real corrosion and rust prevention over a hollow warranty any day.

ChryslerCares, would you care to comment on the Pacifica rust warranty?
 

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Are you sure about the accuracy of your information? When I go to the Chrysler site and download warranty information it gives me a corrosion warranty, the cover says it applies to all 2017 Chrysler vehicles (gas). 5 years outer panels, 3 years sheet metal, covers rust-through (holes).

Regardless, there are quite a few vehicles that eventually succumb to rust here in snowy Michigan, but it seems to be accurate that Chryslers have a higher rate than other manufacturers. Heck, I've got one of them, have some liftgate rust on my ~ 13 year old Pacifica.

I do wonder if it's more of a paint problem than anything else, because it seems to me (and this may just be a small sample size) that it's more of a problem with silver and green vehicles than other colors.

Just my opinion but I wouldn't expect ChryslerCares to comment ... they seem to focus on trying to assist with specific cases, which I'm sure is keeping them busy with hybrids at the moment.
{Bold added} Good to know, I should have gone there before assuming the dealer was accurate. I'm actually glad my info was inaccurate. I will edit my original post, thanks.
 

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We had the '07 Grand Caravan and it was ridiculous with rust. That's actually one of the main reasons I got the Pacifica. I've had other cars, including a cheap Hyundai, for over 10 years and that didn't have a speck of noticeable rust on it. But my GC had significant rust around all 4 wheel wells, and the bottoms of both sliding doors (one of them very significant). In all cases the rust came from the inside and the paint would bubble and peel right off. I would try primer and colormatch spray paint and the rust would show back through within a couple of days.

Considering the GC, T&C, and Pacifica are built in Canada you'd think they would understand a thing or two about rust. I hope they've done better for the Pacifica.
 

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Are you sure about the accuracy of your information? When I go to the Chrysler site and download warranty information it gives me a corrosion warranty, the cover says it applies to all 2017 Chrysler vehicles (gas). 5 years outer panels, 3 years sheet metal, covers rust-through (holes).

Regardless, there are quite a few vehicles that eventually succumb to rust here in snowy Michigan, but it seems to be accurate that Chryslers have a higher rate than other manufacturers. Heck, I've got one of them, have some liftgate rust on my ~ 13 year old Pacifica.

I do wonder if it's more of a paint problem than anything else, because it seems to me (and this may just be a small sample size) that it's more of a problem with silver and green vehicles than other colors.

Just my opinion but I wouldn't expect ChryslerCares to comment ... they seem to focus on trying to assist with specific cases, which I'm sure is keeping them busy with hybrids at the moment.
This information is correct! You can also download a free copy of your Warranty Manual from www.mopar.com for more information regarding the specific warranties on your vehicle. We're happy to assist with general information questions, just be sure to tag/mention us like @II Kings 9:20 did originally so we get a notification to come check out the thread :)

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This information is correct! You can also download a free copy of your Warranty Manual from www.mopar.com for more information regarding the specific warranties on your vehicle. We're happy to assist with general information questions, just be sure to tag/mention us like @II Kings 9:20 did originally so we get a notification to come check out the thread :)

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Thanks again for your involvement here. I updated and corrected my original post to include this useful information posted by mick0210.
 

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I have a 2017 Pacifica and I live in TN. Today I was out checking fluids and noticed a rust bubble on the edge of my hood. There is no chipping in that area and the vehicle has never been wrecked. From what I have read, the warranty will cover it. I have to take by the dealer next week so they can photograph the spot and sent it too Chrysler to get it approved. What do you all think?
 

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I have yet to see a 5th gen with rust, with the exception of bubbling on the lip of the (go figure) aluminum hood. Chryco will replace those hoods under warranty; my '13 GC got a new hood due to the bubbling. I think that since the 5th gens seem to be rust free (at least according to my observations), the Pacificas should benefit from whatever technologies were used on the previous generation of vans. Of course, the problem of bubbling on the hood obviously didn't get solved as illustrated in Familyman6's post.
 

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Can’t say I’ve ever noticed more rust on Chrysler’s than other cars...
 

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Living in Chicagoland, my 2005 T&C had all those rust through problems. Chrysler actually picked up $1500 cost to fix it some years ago but the body shop guy said it would be back quickly and he was right.

Salt is a problem here and I think we use too much of it. We have high expectations of clear streets and politicians have lost elections because streets did not get cleared. (see Chicago Mayor Bilandic 1979 blizzard)

IMHO we use too much salt but that is not a Pacifica related discussion. <GRIN> All that salt runs off into the rivers.
 

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I have a 2017 Pacifica and I live in TN. Today I was out checking fluids and noticed a rust bubble on the edge of my hood. There is no chipping in that area and the vehicle has never been wrecked. From what I have read, the warranty will cover it. I have to take by the dealer next week so they can photograph the spot and sent it too Chrysler to get it approved. What do you all think?
How does this happen with an aluminum hood? This looks to be far more than paint delamination.

We know aluminum can "corrode" or "pit" under certain circumstances but this looks like an old-fashioned rust bubble on a '73 Pinto.
 

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I have a 2017 Pacifica and I live in TN. Today I was out checking fluids and noticed a rust bubble on the edge of my hood. There is no chipping in that area and the vehicle has never been wrecked. From what I have read, the warranty will cover it. I have to take by the dealer next week so they can photograph the spot and sent it too Chrysler to get it approved. What do you all think?
How does this happen with an aluminum hood? This looks to be far more than paint delamination.

We know aluminum can "corrode" or "pit" under certain circumstances but this looks like an old-fashioned rust bubble on a '73 Pinto.

I agree. Makes no sense to me. I am taking it to the dealer tomorrow. They will most likely take care of the issue. I will let you all know when I know.
 

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Here in Cleveland everything rusts that isn't taken car of, heated garages and constant car washes will save your butt. I actually get memberships to the local car wash in the winter, $30/mo unlimited, they have a cheaper unlimited option for $20/mo. it's really not the snow that does it it's the salt. The weird thing is I see alot of rust bucket 2003 caravan's but rarely see any Odyssey's, production numbers were 125k grand caravans, 76k caravans and 154k Odyssey's. It makes you wonder if the Odyssey's drivetain issues sent them to the crusher before they could be seen on the road rusting away. One thing is certain, a Dodge will run on 2 cylinders and 3 wheels if it has to, they simply won't die, I had a caravan back in 03 and the thing had a never ending swaybar linkage knocking noise that was also on our sebring convertible that we dubbed the Chrysler Clap, because every time you's hit a bump it would knock. It also left me stranded with a rusted out lower coolant pipe. After all of the stupid issue's the thing just wouldn't die, nothing like the Trans or the Engine, nothing that was more than $200 would break, so I had it till 2011, no rust on it, gave it to an Iranian family of 7 that needed a van, The father works at Nate's Deli, I recommend the food if you're ever in Town.
 

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I agree. Makes no sense to me. I am taking it to the dealer tomorrow. They will most likely take care of the issue. I will let you all know when I know.
Chrysler will fix that hood. It is a known problem. There are other threads that cover it.
 

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I have a 2017 Pacifica and I live in TN. Today I was out checking fluids and noticed a rust bubble on the edge of my hood. There is no chipping in that area and the vehicle has never been wrecked. From what I have read, the warranty will cover it. I have to take by the dealer next week so they can photograph the spot and sent it too Chrysler to get it approved. What do you all think?
Hello Familyman6,

Before you head into the dealership, I can certainly get a case started and escalate to a Case Specialist for further handling. Send me a direct message with your VIN and the date/time of your appointment if this is of interest.

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Living in Chicagoland, my 2005 T&C had all those rust through problems. Chrysler actually picked up $1500 cost to fix it some years ago but the body shop guy said it would be back quickly and he was right.

Salt is a problem here and I think we use too much of it. We have high expectations of clear streets and politicians have lost elections because streets did not get cleared. (see Chicago Mayor Bilandic 1979 blizzard)

IMHO we use too much salt but that is not a Pacifica related discussion. <GRIN> All that salt runs off into the rivers.
Same in Ohio but I don't see Odysseys (which are exposed to the exact same salt) of the same year rusting out like T&C/GC twins.

Of course you may see an occasional rusty Ody but the Chrysler twins routinely rust at the rear fender arch ahead of the wheel, rockers, and rear hatch. A stroll through any Walmart or Kroger lot proves this time and time again.
 
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