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I very much doubt if the hybrid limited has halogen reflectors. As far as I know only the base L /LX models had reflectors.


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yours came with projector lenses. his didnt hence the $1000.00 price. he would need projector housings PLUS bulbs and ballasts.... yours just needed bulbs and ballasts.
I very much doubt if the hybrid limited has halogen reflectors. As far as I know only the base L /LX models had reflectors
I'm officially confused. [Not surprising to my wife!]
 

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The hybrid limited comes with reflector housings? Yeah, I know very little about the PacHy :laugh:

My PacHy Limited has projector lows and reflector highs - all halogen.
 

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You are absolutely correct when talking about halogen reflector headlights. Doing it on halogen projectors gives a lot better result even though not ideal. So unless you have the base Pacifica with halogen reflectors it should work reasonably well.

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And therein lies the problem... “reasonably well”. Yes, way better than non projectors halogens, but still not correct! There are all sorts of halogen projector equipped Ram trucks near me that have converted to HID. They all put out glare. Most of these stupid aftermarket bulbs put out a colour temperature that is not beneficial for the human eye to see at night, and they are always failing... lots of one light out trucks!

Sorry if you don’t like my opinion but it’s based upon reality and experience. I converted my motorcycle to HID but put a proper HID projector inside the halogen assembly (exact cut off with no glare). Yes it can be done right when you use the correct product/parts for the job. It ain’t cheap.
 

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I thought projector lens for halogen and HID are the same. Just everything from the bulb, back is different? The reason why swapping halogen with HIB/LED bulbs is how it's fitted in the projector housing. Too far forward/back than stock bulb will cause the glare.
 

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I thought projector lens for halogen and HID are the same. Just everything from the bulb, back is different? The reason why swapping halogen with HIB/LED bulbs is how it's fitted in the projector housing. Too far forward/back than stock bulb will cause the glare.
The HID version have a sharp cut off, the halogen version does not. This tells me the optics/guts are different.
 

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Well that can still be bulb placement. What makes the cut line is a metal plate and it’ll bleed light if the bulb (where the light is coming from on the filament) isn’t centered in the same spot as the old halogen.

All I meant is a projector lens should be no different on the two types. Just how they did the wiring for the xenon and what not and bulb placement, which is why the factory one looks better.



The HID version have a sharp cut off, the halogen version does not. This tells me the optics/guts are different.
 

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And therein lies the problem... “reasonably well”. Yes, way better than non projectors halogens, but still not correct! There are all sorts of halogen projector equipped Ram trucks near me that have converted to HID. They all put out glare. Most of these stupid aftermarket bulbs put out a colour temperature that is not beneficial for the human eye to see at night, and they are always failing... lots of one light out trucks!



Sorry if you don’t like my opinion but it’s based upon reality and experience. I converted my motorcycle to HID but put a proper HID projector inside the halogen assembly (exact cut off with no glare). Yes it can be done right when you use the correct product/parts for the job. It ain’t cheap.

Did I sound like I didn’t like your opinion? All I said is that HID in halogen reflectors are much worse than putting in halogen projectors.
In fact I agree with you. “Reasonably well” functioning headlights was not good enough for me either and that was one of the reasons I opted for limited trim. I didn’t want to bake open my brand new car’s headlights. .
The projector parts for halogens and HID are different in general. May be someone who has access to the parts information about Pacifica headlights can chime in.



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Did I sound like I didn’t like your opinion? All I said is that HID in halogen reflectors are much worse than putting in halogen projectors.
In fact I agree with you. “Reasonably well” functioning headlights was not good enough for me either and that was one of the reasons I opted for limited trim. I didn’t want to bake open my brand new car’s headlights. .
The projector parts for halogens and HID are different in general. May be someone who has access to the parts information about Pacifica headlights can chime in.



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That's correct and not just for Pacficas. You can't just put in HIDs in a halogen projector. It wasn't designed for the beam pattern of HIDs. Here's an example:


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I'd like to revive this thread. I just purchased a pair of OEM HID housings for my 2018 PacHy. It currently has the halogen projectors(yuk). I am going to purchase this software:

https://appcar-diagfca.com/en/supported-vehicles/chrysler/chrysler-pacifica/

Is everything plug and play then change the settings to HID using the software? Any extra relays? They make the statement:

Halogen lamps to Bixenon/HID+LED conversion Allows you to activate or deactivate the HID/Xenon and Bi-Xenon Headlamps mode, activate a LED DRLs and more.. everything you need if you have changed the halogen lamps for BiXenon + LED

Thanks for the help in advance.
 

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I'd like to revive this thread. I just purchased a pair of OEM HID housings for my 2018 PacHy. It currently has the halogen projectors(yuk). I am going to purchase this software:

https://appcar-diagfca.com/en/supported-vehicles/chrysler/chrysler-pacifica/

Is everything plug and play then change the settings to HID using the software? Any extra relays? They make the statement:

Halogen lamps to Bixenon/HID+LED conversion Allows you to activate or deactivate the HID/Xenon and Bi-Xenon Headlamps mode, activate a LED DRLs and more.. everything you need if you have changed the halogen lamps for BiXenon + LED

Thanks for the help in advance.
The factory HIDs are connected with relays.
Please keep us posted on your experience with diagfca.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/3t2p7j1kadzxqwf/EXTERIOR LIGHTING SYSTEM - PREMIUM - HALOGEN.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tufjs77a92b7vpa/EXTERIOR LIGHTING SYSTEM - PREMIUM - HID.jpg?dl=0
 

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Update: I was actually helping a friend to do this on his PacHy however he didn't want to go through with it. Super frustrating but I really do believe this will work. Please let me know if anyone tries it.
 

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Interesting. It sounds like that software might also be able to enable some other potentially retrofittable features that people have been interested on getting on a 2018 (folding/ec mirrors, memory seats.) Apparently needs a secure gateway bypass on 2018+ though, so not as simple as just firing up an EM327.
 

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It appears according to the Chrysler Canada website that the Canadian version of the PacHy comes with HID headlights...
Man, what I wouldn't give for an easy HID swap as the existing halogens are ridiculously, almost dangerously, BAD! Has there been any recent attempts with easy to follow instructions yet, as I haven't looked into this for about 9 months now?
 

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I'd be game to get the Canadian HID if it was not hard... I would imagine that FCA would have tried to minimize changes between US and Canada version, so a swap + maybe a reprogramming might do?
 

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The headlight is the same it’s the ballast and the bulb and the relay that is different . The sales code for each specific van generates the headlight type , halogen or hid . The dealer would have to get into the programming and open up the sales code for hid . The electrical system in today’s vehicles definitely isn’t what it used to be , so many computers, relays as they all talk to one another .
 

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So I have a PacHy limited on order and I'm going to "upgrade" the headlights, too. I'm going about it a slightly different way from what's been described here so far: I'm ordering a separate set of halogen housings which will be opened up and retrofitted with dedicated LED projectors for high and low beam. I was going to go HID but I'd rather save myself the wiring hassle. LEDs don't have the startup currents that the HID ballasts do, so running the standard harness should be fine, and it appears that aftermarket bi-LED projectors like Morimoto M LED 2.0 are finally rivaling the performance of HID bi-xenon projectors.

My only question now is what to do about the high beams. The Morimoto Mini HB is a dedicated high beam projector, but I'm tempted to just double up and run 4 bi-led projectors to maximize low beam performance. Two of those LED projectors will use 60W which is close to the 55W of the original halogens, so there should be no problem powering both of them with the normal low beam supply. The high beam will then just power the cutoff solenoids so won't be drawing hardly any power at all, dunno if that will make the BCM unhappy.

I also don't know if there are rules that disallow 4 low beam lights. If they are properly aimed there shouldn't be an issue of glare but on hilly roads the cutoff will often be above oncoming vehicles regardless and 4 low beams will be very bright.

I'm working on finding headlight assemblies on ebay now. My understanding is that the PacHy Limited has "LME+LM5" headlights that they are halogen but still have the same bright DRL LED strips that the gas limited has. If you get a quad halogen headlight assembly from a lower trim level, it will be a "LME+ML1" with high beam DRL and not the LED strip DRL and won't work the same. The conclusion is that you need to get not just the headlights with halogen projectors but also with LED DRL, which means only headlights from the hybrid limited will work. Does this sound correct?
 
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