I'm not ignoring the electric contribution, those numbers are MPG not MPGe. I wouldn't get that mpg without plugging or regen. The cluster calculates something close to MPGe, but it's been debated what it really is and my 18 didn't calculate the same as my 22.Thanks, but that doesn't really answer the question. So your numbers posted earlier are based on ignoring the electric contribution to the economy? Kind of a worthless exercise, no?
My displayed mpg varies greatly depending on whether I’m driving cross country (~33) or if I’ve been driving in town a lot in EV mode (~80-99).Yeah I was hoping for screenshots of the Hybrid Energy Economy display. That's the only way to work from the same yardstick.
These mpg threads, like PSI threads, never work.Yeah I was hoping for screenshots of the Hybrid Energy Economy display. That's the only way to work from the same yardstick.
Seems like that would only work if someone drove the same way as the person to whom they were comparing. A PacHy that only goes 20 miles a day and is recharged every night is going to show really high HEE compared to one that runs on gas for a few miles a day/week/month.Yeah I was hoping for screenshots of the Hybrid Energy Economy display. That's the only way to work from the same yardstick.
As you should and as it should be discussed.Seems like that would only work if someone drove the same way as the person to whom they were comparing. A PacHy that only goes 20 miles a day and is recharged every night is going to show really high HEE compared to one that runs on gas for a few miles a day/week/month.
I hate all the measures of EV/PHEV efficiency in common use. The only things we should be talking about are MPG, depleted battery start, and Miles / kWh, and never the twain shall meet.
I appreciate your concession speech.As you should and as it should be discussed.
Justifications
Abound.
Facts are short if they shorten the win.
For all but few, this electric is a hobby to be justified.
Few win at hobbies, but everyone says they win.
And a picture ID with you holding it to the camera. Blood sample not necessary.From this day forward all reported fuel economy shall be accompanied by a photo of your 2 week drive history.
That's true for the whole pie. I'm just looking for this particular slice of cobbler. Sometimes you don't want to eat the whole thing.Cost per mile.
Electric, gas, maintenance, charger install, ALL costs to own.
Cost
Per
Mile
Everything else is fluffing.
Yeah that is the variable that really can define the mpg. If I understand it correctly, it's not user defined on the Economy screen whereas the trip odometer is user defined given that it can be reset.Fair enough.
Good luck getting the cook to not add secret ingredients to skew numbers.
So far, that's the problem in the thread.
So,
How about we make it a contest?
A picture of your dash disclosing what the dash says(equal as I can think of) over how many miles.
No rumor, no downhill only, just a screen shot.
I'm pretty sure that, even if you don't charge it, it doesn't handle regen correctly either, so if you have any significant hills it won't be correct anyway.Yeah I was hoping for screenshots of the Hybrid Energy Economy display. That's the only way to work from the same yardstick.
So,I'm pretty sure that, even if you don't charge it, it doesn't handle regen correctly either, so if you have any significant hills it won't be correct anyway.
Not necessarily. For relative changes in similar driving it's probably useful. It's for example very clear on ours that running with climate on quite dramatically lowers the mpge.So,
All but totally useless?
A visual fidget spinner?
