What size rims came standard on your PacHY? I assume 18's?

I talked to the dealership before I got our ICE (S), and our mechanic immediately recommended snow tires, since we had 20's and no AWD. That was my clear sign to find a set of rims/tires for winter. Found a used set from a member on here earlier this year. I haven't put them on yet.

 

What size rims came standard on your PacHY? I assume 18's?

I talked to the dealership before I got our ICE (S), and our mechanic immediately recommended snow tires, since we had 20's and no AWD. That was my clear sign to find a set of rims/tires for winter. Found a used set from a member on here earlier this year. I haven't put them on yet.

Yeah, our wheels are 18".

 

Mine came with Yokohama Avids and they were terrible. I ended up turning off the traction control to get up a small hill. I put some all season tires on that have very good ratings hoping for better this year.

 

I think ours came with Michelin Premiers, but could be mistaken. Tried finding that online while the car is at the shop but haven't been able to confirm so I'll check that when I pick the car up from the dealership.

I did experiment with the traction control, and that did help, but only a little.

 

Unfortunately the vehicle has sensitive tip in under acceleration, so drive in L as that helps a bit . The tire from factory are just for mileage and not for snow . I’ve run blizzacks , Michelin xice and they are both great winter ties , although the Michelins are quieter on dry cold roads . It’s a no brainer for snow tires as unfortunately your front end torque loaded under acceleration.

 

My gas Pacifica came with Kumho tires which were equally bad. On a snow + Icey day and climbing upwards through a turn my wife did a 180 degrees and ended with coming down in opposite direction without hitting anything or getting damaged. It was sure scary for her and the kids. Yes winter tires are great option in that scenario. However if your situation is with very minimal / infrequent snow; then, instead of swapping tires, the newer model all season/ all weather tires could be a very acceptable compromise. One tire I read about a lot is Michelin Cross Climate 2.

 

I have a 2022 hybrid with the OEM Yokohama Avids and the van has been above average in snow and ice - took delivery in December 2021 and live in MN so it has seen plenty of winter use. My primary vehicle is a Ram 1500 with dedicated winter tires (Blizzaks) and the pachy replaced a subaru outback with one of the best AWD systems on the market so I am pretty aware of driving characteristics I think. I was plannning to buy winter tires for the van right away but based on the performance with OEM tires have decided to wait until replacement time and perhaps try something like the crossclimate2 next. Would be interested to hear what tire your van has.

 

I'm here in southern MN, so we're getting the same weather. Mine came with Michelin tires. I've got 18" wheels, so maybe you have 17" or 20" which would explain the different tires?

 

My wife has a 2022 Hybrid as well with 18” wheels. I think the stock tires are Nexen but I would have to double check. They are just as awful as the stock Goodyear tires that came stock in my Ram. She’s a pretty light footed driver and even in the rain she gets the tires spinning. We bought a set of 17” wheels from a Chrysler Grand Caravan and put Blizzaks on it for winter here in Ontario. First real snow today and they work great.

 

I live in Pittsburgh which is full of hills and icy rain. My 2018 would slip and slide on just the smallest amount of snow. This included the slight incline to my garage.

I found the Goodyear weather assurance/ready are amazing all season tires. They have never failed me unless it is an extremely bad storm. They are pricy tires but totally worth it. Also, look around online for coupons. My Chase card offered me an instant rebate of 5% back and goodyear had a 200 rebate.

 

Appreciate that, hopefully my winter tires do the trick.. All these responses have me optimistic. That said, I still can't understand why Chrysler would choose such comically bad tires when they're selling a product they know is going to be carrying small children. This isn't an $18k geo metro where you'd expect to get the cheapest of everything, I spent $50k on this thing and it was flat out dangerous to be driving.

 

One of many reasons we moved to KY from the Northeast was too many thrills behind the wheel in winter. We bought our Pacifica in MA, loaded 'er up, and headed South. We get a bit of snow here, but not much. I was concerned about the Chrysler in snow because it is extremely torquey from a standing stop. Once underway it seems to maintain OK traction. You hopefully learn quickly how to start off gently. New General all seasons will hopefully assure better wet/snow traction, but I suspect we'll always need to be careful. Love that torque, but it comes at a price.

 

Good call grabbing the snows. Lots of threads on the Craptastic performance of the stock tires. Crappy traction and still only lasted 35,000 miles, although I discarded them well before they hit the markers because braking became unsafe. Thanks to the forum for warning me about this so I had snow tires purchased and in the garage for immediate fitment when I purchased in 2018. The ride home from the dealership was interesting though. I had thought of bringing the snows to the dealership before delivery - I probably should have.

I would disagree with blaming the awesome torque from the electric drive though. While it does have lots of torque, it is much more linear and easier to modulate that the non-linear ICE engines. You'd probably be worse in the ICE version, unless it came with better tires.

+1 on the Blizzaks. Who cares about saving gas if you're in the ditch?

 

Good call grabbing the snows. Lots of threads on the Craptastic performance of the stock tires. Crappy traction and still only lasted 35,000 miles. Thanks to the forum for warning me about this so I had snow tires purchased and in the garage for immediate fitment when I purchased in 2018. The ride home from the dealership was interesting though. I had thought of bringing the snows to the dealership before delivery - I probably should have.

I would disagree with blaming the awesome torque from the electric drive though. While it does have lots of torque, it is much more linear and easier to modulate that the non-linear ICE engines. You'd probably be worse in the ICE version, unless it came with better tires.

+1 on the Blizzaks. Who cares about saving gas if you're in the ditch?

I think you may need to brush up on some engineering philosophies about phev vehicles compared to ice vehicles . No matter if a torque cure is flat , linear it’s all in right off the hop . A electric motor is giving you everything from 0mph and onward . A ice motor has to build torque as it accelerates , so hp and torque curve will both have sweet spots over distance . This is the reason why ev”s burn through tires more rapidly than Ice vehicles. , instantaneous acceleration is what you get from electric motors driving your wheels .

 

Purchased a 2022 Pacific Hybrid - Touring this past spring, has 5,000 miles on it as of this morning. Have so far been very happy with every aspect of the vehicle, we've been getting well over 1000 miles on a tank of gasoline thanks to the plug in hybrid option.

Wife calls me yesterday morning in a panic, says she couldn't make it up a hill and slid backwards. We have less than an inch of snow on the ground. Hoping it was user error, I took the van back out this morning after we received another inch of snow and it was comical how bad this car was. I'm no longer a mechanic, but worked for several dealerships during college putting tires on and other basic maintenance. I've probably driven 100 different makes/models - FWD, RWD, AWD - and this is easily the worst snow performance I've ever seen.

So, there goes $1,000 for winter tires, which I'm hoping will help. Curious if others have experienced the same thing. This isn't necessarily an issue for the hybrid specifically, because there were aspects where the car was just sliding in situations where I wasn't even accelerating, but I am now wondering if the power/torque that is provided by the electric engine makes accelerating in slippery conditions more difficult. Again, hoping the winter tires are the solution, but now I'm thinking I may also need to avoid charging the car in winter conditions so that the gas engine does the work instead of the more powerful electric engine. That would be a second big disappointment.

Regardless, I wanted to post this because these factory default tires are legitimately dangerous for a family to be driving in and Chrysler should be terrified that there are kids being shuttled around in their vehicles riding on such garbage tires. I'll update my experience after the winter tires are put on and we have similar conditions, but knowing what I know today I would not purchase this vehicle in a northern state.

I too have been very disappointed with the tires Chrysler put on my 2023 hybrid. I hope a better all season tire will help us through the next winter. Thankfully there was hardly any snow this past winter in Wisconsin.

 

I have a '22 PacHy bought new September '22. Ran it the first winter in Western NY on the OEM All-Seasons & did notice it was easy to make the wheels slip when starting out. The traction control system will take over & keep things from getting too squirrely. The next winter, ran a set of four Goodyear Nordic Winter Snows (no studs), with much better results. Those tires weren't worth another season, so ran them all summer down to 4/32" tread depth & replaced them with Cooper Evolution winter tires (studded). The grip is great but the studs are much noisier than those in an older set of the same Cooper Evolution Winters running on my Grand Caravan. Will be happy to put the OEM all-seasons back on in the spring, but the studded winter tires are worth it in my opinion. "What's the cost of an accident?" The electric drive does have a bit of torque starting up, so it is possible to spin the tires on a wet paint stripe or other marginal road surface. Drive gently, you'll be OK.