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I can't see the filter at all from up top. Do you have to go underneath and remove the large plastic splash guard in its ENTIRETY to get to the filter or can you just drop a corner or reach around? I'm trying to decide if I will drain oil through the lower drain plug each and every time or sometimes suck it out through the dipstick tube. On some of my vehicles I can remove the filter from up top making the decision easy.

 

How much was the filter? The last time I had the oil changed on our T&C, they didn't stock it, said it was a "special filter". I had to go to Auto Shack and buy one for $18. Add the cost of the oil change to that (they gave me a $2.00 credit for the filter), I would have been better off taking it to a Chrysler dealer.

 

I paid $11.12 plus tax for this filter and O-Ring at the dealer. He said it was the same filter as earlier Pentastar engines (since 2014). I haven't tried installing it though.

 

Thanks, I could have gotten it a few dollars cheaper, but Auto Shack was the closest parts store. Regardless, it's still a bit pricey for an oil filter seeing as how it's the same one.

 

I just checked RockAuto and they sell 2017 Pacifca oil filters (including o-ring) for about 4 bucks each.

 

I just checked RockAuto and they sell 2017 Pacifca oil filters (including o-ring) for about 4 bucks each.

Makes sense. At that price, I can buy a couple and don't have to worry about not having one when I need it.

Thanks for the input....

 

The filter is up top on the left side of the engine cover. It's a black plastic housing with what looks like a black plastic bolt head molded into it. It's 24mm and has a torque spec listed on it on 25nm.

As for the filter, yeah, rock auto has them for 4-5 bucks that includes the o-ring. I got mine through Amazon for $8, a wix filter. Nothing special about it.

 

The filter is up top on the left side of the engine cover. It's a black plastic housing with what looks like a black plastic bolt head molded into it. It's 24mm and has a torque spec listed on it on 25nm.

You made my day, Tsuter! I've never seen that type of oil filter cover. Too easy! Extracting oil from the top, I should be able to do an oil change in under 5 minutes I think. :grin2:

Brett

 

Yup, they make it convenient. I've never used the extractor method for an oil change, I've always preferred to pull the drain plug, but I have a friend that is a Mercedes tech that swears you get more oil out via the extractor down the dipstick tube.
I picked up an extractor pump to use on my daily driver, so I'll probably give it a shot in 5000 miles.

 

I have the Harbor Freight extractor that hooks to an air compressor. I like that it has an indicator that shows exactly how full the tank is. I actually have two: one for oil only and the other for other types of liquids (coolant, etc.). I originally bought the first one because oil extraction is the only way to change oil on a Yamaha Waverunner.

Mercedes tech, huh? Here is a YouTube video made by a Mercedes tech (your friend?) where he illustrates an extractor works better, at least on a Mercedes.

 

work just fine on my Pac 207 and pachy 2022. NEVER had a oil change for the bottom.

 

Awesome video, not my guy though. I see why the extractor is the better choice. Time to give mine a shot.

Thanks for the video.

 

Thanks ! I've never actually seen someone open up the filter to see what was in there. That's actually a real bang on idea, gotta give it a try.

Love the extractors though, makes life much easier and cleaner to do. They don't take long either

 

I did my first oil change today at 1500 miles. I used a Harbor Freight extractor running off my air compressor, replaced the topside oil filter and associated o-ring and put 5 quarts of 0W-20 Mobile 1 synthetic in. The oil level comes up exactly to the top marker hole on the dipstick. Total time 7.5 minutes. I think I can do it in 5 minutes next time. The oil extractor can hold four Pacifica oil changes before I have to empty it. Easiest and quickest oil change I have ever done. The Pentastar engine rocks!

 

Are you concerned about which oil Chrysler recommends?

"We recommend you use API Certified SAE 0W-20 Engine Oil, meeting the requirements of FCA Material Standard MS-6395 such as MOPAR, Pennzoil, and Shell Helix. Refer to your engine oil filler cap for correct SAE grade."

The last time I checked, Mobile 1 didn't meet the MS-6395 standard.

 

Thanks for pointing that out. I am definitely concerned if it is a warranty issue. I thought Mobile 1 was "the good stuff". I'll go read up on the 6395 standard and research this a bit.

 

I've been using Mobil 1 for years. I also thought it was the best oil on the market. I've done some research into the 6395 standard, and it appears like Mopar, Shell and Pennzoil are the only ones meeting that standard. I think I'll use the Pennzoil Ultra Plantinum.

 

Wow, thanks for this input. I don't change my own oil, I think, no, I know that if I got under the vehicle on my back, that I'd never be able to get back up on my own. Anyway, I usually don't pay attention to what brand of oil they use where I go. Although Pennzoil is a common choice around here, I'll be sure to check with the shop we normally use before having it changed.

 

Likewise, I haven't changed my oil for a long time. I plan to have the dealer change mine.

 

Apparently Mobile Super Synthetic (not Mobile 1) meets Chrysler 6395. Maybe I'll use that next time around. Thanks, BRLowry for bringing this to my attention!

https://mobiloil.com/en/motor-oils/mobil-super/mobil-super-synthetic

 

is there a filter that takes synthetic? I know the NORMAL filters do. I have used synthetic oil and filters for the last 10 years now.

 

Motor Oil: Certification: Chrysler MS-6395 | Jeep Off Road Adventures

There's a good page about the spec. It's interesting that some conventional oils meet the spec as well, but Mobil 1 doesn't.

 

I saw the filter at the local WallyWorld for about $10. I'm sure that your FLAPS will have them too.

 

Changed my oil and filter today at 1500 miles. put in a 5 qt. jug of Penzoil 0-20 synthethic.
Did not even bring the level to the bottom mark on the dip stick ?????? Thought these things used 5 qts. ?


Drained around 6 qts out from the factory fill.

 

If memory serves five individual quarts brought mine exactly to the top mark on the dipstick but I used an oil extractor to remove the old oil so maybe I didn't get it all ( I thought I did). I've been waiting for other people to report after-oil-change levels on their dipsticks hoping they got the same reading as mine, but Randy's report has me really confused. Tsuter, after you changed your oil and filter do you recall what your dipstick showed? Anyone else change their own oil or happen to check dipstick level after a dealer change.

Randy, did the cap on your 5qt jug look tampered with in any way like someone "borrowed" a quart? Also, another long shot, but compare your dipstick length with another 2017 Pacifica to see if yours is short - a short dipstick would explain why you drained 6 QTS out (if last guy kept filling till dipstick was happy). Otherwise, I got nothing.

 

Agreed. Another theory would be that the manual has a misprint and we all actually have 6 quart engines but then everyone doing oil changes should notice the same as you. Probably few have reached the 10,000 mark so only a handful may have attempted oil changes so far to get rid of "break-in" oil.

In my case adding 5 quarts per the manual definitely brought mine to the top dipstick line but that isn't conclusive because I used an oil extractor to remove the old oil through the dipstick tube and maybe I can't use one of those because it leaves a whole quart of dirty oil in the engime.

I am very interested in how this thread plays out. If the manual is wrong about 5 quarts and your experience is the norm then I can't use my oil extractor in the future. Bummer, but I'll owe you a debt of gratitude if that's the case. I'm going to swing by the dealer on Tuesday with other questions so I'll ask about oil capacity and see what they say. I'll do an Internet search too.

 

Well, when I look at our 2017 Pacifica Owners manual and User Guide I see 5 quarts. When I search the Internet for 2017 Pacifica specifications I see 5 quarts.

But when I search for 3.6 L Chrysler Pentastar engine in general I see 6 quarts over and over again.

 

Agreed. Another theory would be that the manual has a misprint and we all actually have 6 quart engines but then everyone doing oil changes should notice the same as you. Probably few have reached the 10,000 mark so only a handful may have attempted oil changes so far to get rid of "break-in" oil.

In my case adding 5 quarts per the manual definitely brought mine to the top dipstick line but that isn't conclusive because I used an oil extractor to remove the old oil through the dipstick tube and maybe I can't use one of those because it leaves a whole quart of dirty oil in the engime.

I am very interested in how this thread plays out. If the manual is wrong about 5 quarts and your experience is the norm then I can't use my oil extractor in the future. Bummer, but I'll owe you a debt of gratitude if that's the case. I'm going to swing by the dealer on Tuesday with other questions so I'll ask about oil capacity and see what they say. I'll do an Internet search too.

Changed the oil today in my Touring L-Plus, at 1,500 miles. Build date Oct 2016.
Drained oil using the oil pan drain plug.
6 quarts needed, and was spot on the top of the dipstick range / top hole. 5 quarts was about 20% above the lower line on the dipstick.

 

The 3.6L PUG (Pentastar Upgrade) engine features a redesigned oil pan that supports a reduced oil capacity of 5 quarts versus the prior version of the 3.6L. Source is Allpar.com

 

All I know is that I drained 6 qts. out and it took 6 qts. to refill to top mark.

 

hi, I haven't seen any posts on this yet, but the other day while I was driving, my pacifica's engine turned off WHILE I WAS MOVING. I had no warning, just that it stopped accelerating and the screen said that car must be in park to put it in drive. Thankfully I had just turned onto a residential street, however, due to the steering being electronic, I had lost the power steering. I had to coast to a stop, then put it in park and press the on button with foot on brake like normal starting. The more I think about this, the more scared I am to drive the van! What if it had happened anywhere else! I had an appointment at the dealer the next morning already, so I told the tech what had happened. They checked the car and it didn't have any codes on it. As if it never happened. I am not sure what to do at this point, I'm really nervous about driving it. The tech couldn't tell me anything. I didn't have any warning, and nothing weird happened with the vehicle before the shut off of the engine. The tech checked to see if my car needed a software update to fix the problem and there was none. My thought was that if a car needed a software update to not shut off randomly while in operation, maybe you shouldn't be selling the dang car!!! Any advice/suggestions? I've never had an issue like this before!

 

I have just had the same issue. And, of course, the dealer tells me there is nothing wrong with the car.

What was the end result with you??